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Not being represented != being systematically killed off

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It’s not just lack of representation though. The UK is removing trans people’s access to the healthcare that allows them to live a tolerable life.

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And that is a very serious issue that I feel deeply for and want to help them overcome it.

But it’s not a fucking genocide.

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The government literally covered up the massive leap in suicides since banning trans care for youths.

Bit more than not being represented.

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Still not a genocide. That’s not what that word means.

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It pretty much is. If you ignore the culture / race part. Eugenics would be a more correct term.

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UN definition of genocide: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

Although you can’t technically genocide trans people because they’re not one of the special groups outlined in the definition, you don’t actually need to kill people to commit a genocide. I would argue that there is “intent to destroy, in whole or in part” trans people by “Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”. By taking away healthcare and other accommodations, serious harm is caused to trans people. Couple this with the high suicide rates of bullied and marginalised trans people, one could argue that the lawmakers are intending to kill trans people (although I personally wouldn’t go that far)

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It’s not genocide for the same reason that straight-up euthanising, say, schizophrenics isn’t: Neither are a people, but a subset of every people.

I’d lump it in with eugenics but genocide is catchy so I’ll permit it despite better semantic judgement.


EDIT: What, y’all disagreeing with me about the use of “genocide” being politically opportune?

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How is lack of healthcare = Not being represented?
You are making a strawman argument, there is much more to it than not being represented.

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By that logic, all US Citizens are victims of ongoing genocide.

Genocides are a real thing that are really happening to people across the world, you can’t just make it mean something less than it is in good conscience.

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Trans people are losing access to healthcare in disproportionate ways, and unless you’re literally the dumbest person alive or have never read a news headline… you know that they are. Your disingenuous denial contributes to the problem. You are contributing to genocide.

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Cough HIV in the 80s cough

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The comment was “okay cissy”.

Why was this removed?

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Because denying genocide is cool and good, and being mean to the people denying your genocide is bad (:

/s cissies will always be snowflakes who are more offended by an insult than an attempt to wipe out trans people

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That’s you indulging in your fears about cultural change through a straw man, obviously it will disgust you. Luckily it’s not real, so you can focus on other things.

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I mean, they keep killing themselves.

If non-existence is preferable to the discomfort, I’d say the need to help them is pretty fucking immediate.

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This is my first time ever seeing anyone suggest this exists, let alone ever seeing anyone say that legitimately.

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I wager 9 out of 10 people that get super offended by anything not like them have a 64% chance to be gay, themselves.

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You should be less involved and concerned with other people’s sexual preferences. It’s creepy.

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We’re about to face a not so silent one in the US too :(

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Terf island going to terf

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What kind of trash tier journalism is this. Genocide is a real, serious issue. You can’t just call something a genocide metaphorically, that’s incredibly disrespectful.

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Lack of healthcare and lack of rights and protections that are common for other minorities, together with a huge deal of oppression, often violence and sometimes murder, is absolutely a kind of genocide, and in no way disrespectful to other forms of genocide.

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I’m gay. And this isn’t genocide. You could use hate, bigotry, segregation possibly, but genocide requires death, not “sometimes death,” and it’s the whole group, not just the ones who cannot defend themselves. Rich LGBT in the UK are doing just fine.

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

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If a transsexual can’t have proper healthcare, it can in fact result in death, that is very real.
Another thing that’s real is that they are treated so poorly in general that they have the highest suicide rate by far of any minority.
Finally many choose not to live as the gender they wish they could, because it’s too problematic even dangerous. Even if this isn’t a physical death, it is killing the existence of people that can live their life as transgender.

Much the same way as the Iranian president when he visited New York some years ago, claimed that Iran did not have homosexuals, so there was no oppression of them.
A completely ridiculous claim we know is biologically impossible, and we know is false because they seek refuge in the west.
And we know Iran executes people for being homosexual, which of course is the ultimate genocide of homosexuals.

Or will you deny that too?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3642673

Iranian president says country has no gays

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Yeah rich Jews could leave Germany.

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No it isn’t

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The advocate is a very real organization. However, they lean towards the dramatic. That’s how you get attention to topics that some people don’t want to think about.

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‘genocide’ lol

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