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This is extremely compelling. Let’s get the world’s billionaires and the six conservatives on the US Supreme Court to investigate it in an amateur built submarine. Rich people love the titanic and lack of regulations.

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Let’s not leave out other political extremists, can’t just have America investigating.

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Great idea except Windows has bricked all non-xbox gaming controllers /s

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I’m sure I got a MadCatz controller lying somewhere, use that

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We don’t have to tell the billionaires this

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Just use x360ce, nothing can go wrong with a layer of controller emulation!

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Sounds like nonsense, the pictures are swapped. Quote below from https://www.cruisemummy.co.uk/titanic-vs-olympic/

  1. The Titanic had more irregular windows One of the few differences you can spot by looking at pictures of the Titanic and the Olympic next to each other is that the Titanic had more irregular port holes on B deck.

This is because of all the design changes that were made to that part of the ship during construction – it means that the windows were spaced out a lot more unevenly.

On the Olympic, because the plans were unchanged during construction, the windows are evenly spaced across that deck.

More importantly, even if the Olympic sank instead of Titanic, then Titanic continued serving as an ocean liner and troop ship and hospital ship for two decades, so what was the point of the fraud?

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IIRC: Olympic couldn’t be insured as it was involved in a collision with HMS Hawkeye; and was found at fault by the Royal Navy. There was also damage that couldn’t really be repaired resulting in an permanent slight port list and it was a floating legal liability. Titanic was insured for double its worth after this and White Star was owned by noted scumbag JP Morgan. Olympic was also being repaired at the same shipyard Titanic was being built at, making a switch that much easier.

My opinion: They swapped the boats in the yard to pass regulatory inspection for Olympic, then swapped back if there’s any truth to this.

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And now they’ve snared another one

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Titanic was under insured so there’s no way they were making any money back by her sinking…

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To your last point, the reason was that the Olympic was dealing with some manufacturing issues and couldn’t be insured unless it was basically rebuilt for a new inspection.

Instead of rebuilding it, they secretly renamed it the Titanic so it could be insured fraudulently under the Titanic’s insurance, then intentionally sank it to claim the insurance on it. Now they have a good ship (the real Titanic) which will pass inspection as the Olympic, and they have the insurance payout from the sunken Olympic which shouldn’t have been able to be insured.

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Olympic was rammed by a warship which was why she was in dry dock at the same time as Titanic.

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They lost me forever at “at the last minute”. Anyone with even a slight concept of logistics knows there’s no way they’re just going to swap all the provisions, luggage, load, fuel, passengers, etc. at anything near the last minute.

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and to force Celine Dion to swap out her lyrics at the last minute? Preposterous!

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4 points

Wait, so her heart wouldn’t go on?

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It was just too much to unload at the last minute

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If I remember correctly, loading a ship that size with coal took weeks. That was the main limitation when it came to turnaround time.

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49 points

this is a great theory because while it sounds insane, if it were true it’d actually be very boring

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i was thinking that, this is the least insane conspiracy theory simply because no one other than rich fuckheads would care

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Apparently there is a Wikipedia page dedicated to Titanic Conspiracy theories, who knew!

In regards to swapping the Olympic with the Titanic, this section summarizes:

British historian Gareth Russell, for his part, calls the theory “so painfully ridiculous that one can only lament the thousands of trees which lost their lives to provide the paper on which it has been articulated.” He notes that, “since the sister ships had significant interior architectural and design differences, switching them secretly in a week would be nearly impossible from a practical standpoint. A switch would also not be economically worthwhile, since the ship’s owners could have simply damaged the ship while docked (for instance, by setting a fire) and collected the insurance money from that ‘accident’, which would have been far less severe, and infinitely less stupid, than sailing her out into the middle of the Atlantic with thousands of people, and their luggage, on board, and ramming her into an iceberg”.

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But like…why the fuck would it even matter? The story is exactly the same, the only different thing is the name of the ship. And if their theory is that they only sunk it for insurance money…like, what were the people in charge of sailing the thing into an iceberg getting out of this except death? What a dumb thing to spend your time being up in arms over.

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I believe the “plan” was to sink her slowly by letting some water in, then have the “safest” at sea disaster by calling for help with enough time for nearby vessels to assist. The theory then goes on to claim that hitting the iceberg was an accident that only happened because they couldn’t steer around it fast enough due to the water they had already taken on.

Can’t remember where I read this it, might have been the Wikipedia article about the conspiracy theory.

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They obviously miscalculated the trajectory around the iceberg because they were using the round Earth model.

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Ooooh. Well, when you put it that way!

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