Ms Ellis works full-time as a nurse’s assistant and has a second part-time job.

But she needs to economise. She has switched stores, cut out brand-name items like Dove soap and Stroehmann bread, and all but said goodbye to her favourite Chick-fil-A sandwich.

Still, Ms Ellis has sometimes turned to risky payday loans (short-term borrowing with high interest rates) as she grapples with grocery prices that have surged 25% since Mr Biden entered office in January 2021.

“Prior to inflation,” she says, “I didn’t have any debt, I didn’t have any credit cards, never applied for like a payday loan or any of those things. But since inflation, I needed to do all those things…I’ve had to downgrade my life completely.”

The leap in grocery prices has outpaced the historic 20% rise in living costs that followed the pandemic, squeezing households around the country and fuelling widespread economic and political discontent.

78 points

Unless the president does something monumentally stupid (like telling people not to wear masks during a pandemic) the president has little impact on the economy (or oil prices). Why do people keep talking about the president like he’s got a great big series of valves that controls the economy? It’s ridiculous!

Any decision the president makes that will impact the economy is most likely to have an impact ten years later. Sometimes an impact can be felt sooner than that but it’s usually not a good thing for the economy… Like starting a war or closing the borders.

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Yeah they also say it started when he took office but it definitely started during the pandemic when someone else was president. I don’t understand why it’s always framed like that. This inflation is a direct result of the pandemic response. But somehow they think the guy who caused it could fix it? Insane

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You should know why it’s framed that way. This is a political piece, designed to make Biden look bad.

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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/money/2020/05/12/coronavirushow-u-s-printing-dollars-save-economy-during-crisis-fed/3038117001/

TLDR 3.5 trillion new dollars into the economy because of COVID

That’s why we have super high inflation…

But if you listen to my dad talk it’s

Biden no talk good and bad at president.

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This would make sense if all those printed dollars went to regular people who then spent it on groceries, thus driving up demand, but that’s not the case. The distribution of money matters as much as the amount that exists. Biden isn’t the cause regardless, but I don’t buy the excuse that money printing alone caused this.

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6 points

not really. pushing the fed to drop interest rates for no reason so that when an emergency like a pandemic happens they are at zero and can’t be dropped a bit can have an impact.

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4 points

Because it’s easy to blame the president who simultaneously is ineffective in controlling the difficulties in your daily life while also being the cause of those same difficulties.

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Didn’t you hear? The supreme court said the president is basically a king now /jk

No but real talk, you are right. People put way more importance on a presidential election than what it’s in reality. I mean, its super important, but he doesn’t drive the country like a fucking bus, it’s more like hes the admiral and the country is a fleet of ships that all need to be coordinating with one another.

If people want really change, then they need to put as much importance to local elections of all levels as they do for the presidential election… hell, maybe put slightly more importance to the local elections.

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Also, as a simple demonstration…I vote for Biden!

There, that’s exactly the same thing as voting for Biden in the coming election. I’m not saying don’t, because god forbid Trump fucks this country over once more. No, what I’m saying is:

#1 let’s vote via phone constantly… Oh the public hasn’t agreed with anything you did for 3 weeks? GTFO, you gave it a good try!

#2 currently we don’t actually vote for the president or in any direct way actually do for him. The electoral college does, we don’t. The electors are not mind controlled by anyone, they literally could give us the finger and vote Trump into office.

#3 if we voted electronically via our phones, we would still not influence the election of the president in a direct way, so why the hesitation to make elections faster and less expensive?..is it because then we would really know how we all feel?

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Watch some of Larry Summers talks - he predicted this inflation as Biden was gearing up to pass the IRA. He bailed out deadbeat students, screwing over people like me who worked their way through college. This increased the amount of money circulating in the economy. Then he printed trillions of dollars to hand out to folks, increasing it even more.

Biden’s policies directly contributed to and exacerbated inflation, rewarding irresponsible actors and punishing responsible ones. Even democrats and progressives (such as Larry Summers) can see this.

In case you don’t know, Larry Summers was Secretary of the Treasury under Clinton and Director of the National Economic Council under Obama (and the President of Harvard in between) - so this isn’t some far out right-wing talking point. Biden wanted a big bailout bill to take credit for, and he fucked the economy in the process.

Edit: I see downvotes, but no rebuttals. So I’ll double-down with links to the interviews I’m referencing.

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I don’t think anyone’s bothered because of how obviously wrong what you’ve written is to anyone with a decent memory.

Inflation had already peaked when the inflation reduction act was passed in August 2022. It had already blown past 9%. Predicted means guessing something before it happens, not after. Inflation decreased steadily after the act passed. If you’re trying to argue that it stopped it from slowing down faster that would be pretty silly when America had a relatively better recovery from inflation than most countries. You’re also blaming more inflation on a mass student loan forgiveness that never even happened. Unless you’re blaming public service loan forgiveness and stuff.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_08102022.pdf

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

But no, go on about how something Biden did magically created global inflation. /sigh

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also, and I will keep beating this drum, obama had the fed rate at 2.5 about when he left office and trump whined and bullied the fed to bring it to zero just before covid because they where “conspiring” to ruin his economy. fed rates should only be lowered when there is cause (like a pandemic) and not because he want stock market to go burr. idealy its raised and lowered slowly but because trump pushed it unnaturally low we had to have the sudden big jumps under biden.

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Not a single rebuttal to any of the points raised in the interviews I linked…

Sad.

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Still, Ms Ellis has sometimes turned to risky payday loans (short-term borrowing with high interest rates) as she grapples with grocery prices that have surged 25% since Mr Biden entered office in January 2021.

Payday loans caused such a problem for young and dumb military members that there’s a law about how much interest they can charge military members, and subsequently won’t loan to military members.

We need those predatory interest laws to protect everyone.

But it’s depressing as fuck the rates are so predatory it literally had a negative impact on the US military.

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Because the military is mostly young guys with no financial literacy who are suddenly handed more money than they know what to deal with. It’s just the extreme scenario of the average American. (Maybe your average person, or even your average animal, but I don’t know enough to say.)

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who are suddenly handed more money than they know what to deal with.

Lol…

The military doesn’t pay that well. It’s just a steady paycheck.

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The signup bonuses can be pretty large depending on your placement exam.

When I was a young dumb 18 year old that wanted to be a doctor, I thought the army would be a good way to do that debt free.

They offered me something like 25 grand if I signed up that day.

That’sa lot of cash for an 18 year old.

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Yup. And for most of those guys, they haven’t had that before. (Also food and housing is generally free for junior enlisted, so they don’t really have much in the way of bills, either. Cell phone, Xbox Live, and that girl’s onlyfans who is really into me I swear)

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Other people are just as vulnerable though why protect only some people?

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It probably wouldn’t have passed if it wasn’t For The Troops™.

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10 points

I do hate when laws cover specific groups when there is no good reason they can’t cover everyone broadly.

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This is why I worry that Republicans will win: bc they have mastered the “truth” that facts don’t matter so much as campaign commercials.

And apparently journalists also, e.g. that line "They can’t buy groceries anymore. They can’t.” - I mean… there are cheaper options that don’t involve going into debt to purchase goods on a literally weekly basis.

Even here in the Fediverse, we send them clicks and spread the message for them. E.g. when the woman says:

“I know he’s a big fat mouth,” she says of Mr Trump. “But he at least knows how to run the economy.”

Whereas in response the reporter tried to be “fair & balanced” by saying that:

Mr Biden has claimed, incorrectly, that inflation was already at 9% when he entered office. It was 1.4%.

There is no reason to give either of these statements the time or day, but instead they spread them as “newsworthy”.

I guess it’s my own fault for remaining subscribed to this community, if this is the content that regularly appears here.

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As a note: you did notice this is from the BBC, right? As in the British Broadcasting Company?

I’m not entirely sure the BBC is Republican-captured media, though I’ll tend to agree that their style guide leads to reading an awful lot like conservative media.

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Thing is a lot of the media corpo right came out of britain, australia, and canada. IE murdock, black. They found they could grow the stuff better in the US and then it made it easier to take root once they export it to the more liberal countries.

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Such a misleading way the story is written. Also a failure to mention that inflation was a global phenomenon, that it was brought down faster in America than most other places, that it was able to be brought down without a recession as was widely predicted which would have been far more devastating, that wage growth has compensated for inflation and then some, that wage growth was highest for hourly and low income workers, and a failure to mention the responses made by congress and the president to help inflation. So much important context left out.

Barely a mention of the fact that all of Trump’s polices are the exact opposite of what you would do to help inflation. That his tarrifs alone will raise this person’s costs by $1700 a year. Why don’t they ask her what she thinks of Trump’s tarrifs costing her $1700 more a year if he takes office? They could mention how his first term policies including pressuring the federal reserve for unnecessarily low rates created a dangerous environment for inflation before the pandemic kicked it off.

But all they can say is, just, I dunno, inflation was fine when Biden took office. In March 2021 prices were already increasing by 0.6% a month from the month before, a 4.8% annualized rate. Comparing to the year before is an average of the past 12 months of change combined. The month to month rate is a much better way to see how it’s changing when it’s changing rapidly. They were begining to accelerate before Biden did much of anything, and not to mention this occurred simultaneously around most of the globe.

Anyways, journalists can’t be bothered I guess. Everyone always wonders why people think Republicans are better for the economy despite all the evidence to contrary. I think a lot of it is lazy journalism that just regurgitates opinions and polling instead of researching facts.

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From https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/inflation-higher-biden-rising-pay-makes-rcna158569 :

“Cumulative wage growth since the start of the pandemic has outpaced price growth across the wage distribution, but the most wage growth has been among lower-wage workers,” Bank of America economists wrote in a note to clients Tuesday. “This is likely because labor shortages have been the most acute in blue-collar sectors. While recent wage growth has been distributed more evenly across the distribution, the large cumulative wage gains for lower-income consumers since 4Q 2019 have buffered them against the inflation shock.”

I admit that every time I buy groceries, I am shocked by the prices. The thing is: I don’t blame the President for it. I blame lax regulation that has allowed monopolies to take over everything and pay workers as little as possible – particularly by misclassifying them as contractors. I also blame the Supreme Court for ruling in favor of the rich and powerful instead of the the citizenry and/or the institutional expertise within the government (EPA, NIS, etc.).

I’m frustrated that it seems the only people who can garner enough attention to get elected are ALL saying nice things to their base, then creating legislation and/or voting to take power from governmental regulators and experts and just let big businesses so whatever they want – which ALWAYS boils down to stripping as much money and power as they can from the populace.

Have some links:

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Also… inflation is always there. My parents made a laughable amount of money together compared to what I make. The only difference is time. Once time passes your income becomes smaller than the new generations. Thus making you eventually homeless after retirement.

I hope these words help others understand how inflation is another tool to make us work our ass off during our useful life and then make good riddance of us after we’re no longer useful.

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This is why you save money while you’re working and plan for retirement inclusive of inflation. You retire with a fixed income that is built with annual inflation in mind. It’s not “designed” to keep anyone poor. That’s utter nonsense.

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