My grey matter refuses to process whatever is happening here. I will simply continue to not look at twitter.
Some binary and passing trans people get upset when they’re in queer spaces and asked for their pronouns or referred to as “they/them” before someone knows their pronouns because in non queer spaces, people assume their gender based off appearance and gender them appropriately (because theyre binary and passing). These people think even in queer spaces you should assume peoples gender based off appearance because it makes them personally feel good to be gendered correctly without having to explain themselves
This doesn’t go over well with non passing or non binary trans people for the obvious reasons
Okay I’m not that offline, I am a non binary and a trans people.
I think I was happier when I did not understand that this Twitter® Screenshot™ is just binies getting up in arms over jack shit, again. Like hey, didn’t Contrapoints do exactly this bit about feelin sad people use they/them and wanting to get presumptively gendered correctly? Twitter needs new material.
It disappointing but not surprising that some binary trans people are okay with transphobia if they benefit from it
didn’t Contrapoints do exactly this bit about feelin sad people use they/them and wanting to get presumptively gendered correctly?
i think that was one of these bits that’s secretly sincere.
Gotta love how the truscummy “I hate it when people ask for pronouns because people should just base your pronouns on how you look!” take conveniently neglects the existence of androgynous people.
Ah an unstoppable force (pronoun circles) meets an immovable object (trans women getting clocked and subsequently degendered), producing a new kind of Twitter discourse where everyone is fundamentally incapable of understanding each other.
Like something that’s not being brought up here is: it’s easier to pass in cisciety than to be stealth in a queer meetup. So are the cis men and women in your LGBT group being they/them’d and asked their pronouns, or is that being subconsciously reserved for the transgender men and women who get clocked? I think both sides of this debate are assuming different fundamentals here.
People think I’m a cishet ally too much it drives me nuts. Why are my vibes so fucked
But I’ve also had the situation where the cissies pronoun circle so the removed (me) would spill the beans
or is that being subconsciously reserved for the transgender men and women who get clocked
this is my overwhelming experience with any group that doesnt have trans leadership. It reached the point where some cis woman turned to me and my partner, looked at us for half a second and said “we should do introductions, with pronouns”. Mind you, I had shaken hands with everybody about two hours ago.
The consequence from this obv isnt that passology is good, lol. This whole thing sounds super heated to me and people seem to extrapolate the other side having the worst possible assumptions and beliefs from every statement to score cheap dunks and feel good.
This is exactly it. Like, I have a good friend who gets gendered correctly pretty regularly in cishet spaces but just gets misgendered/degendered constantly in queer spaces. It’s getting harder for me to get her to hang out with my in queer spaces as a result. Her presentation is not queer
some of the replies to that quoted tweet are amazing, “just pass harder, idiot” damn, thank you for the pro-tip ma’am, i haven’t considered that
Well I don’t know about you, but my plan is to adorn my clothes with a shit ton of bells in reference to the single sentence description of the Sons of Frey in Gesta Danorum, which is to my knowledge the only surviving textual evidence of third-gender priests in pre-Christian Scandinavia. Of course most people wouldn’t get the reference but that’s their problem not mine
brb, building an orbital strike cannon that fires copies of Julia Serano’s Whipping Girl at people who post bad-faith pronoun discourse
