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Number 1, been there. Got called to the principal’s office and strongly encouraged to start again when I was having garbage thrown at me. Why did I stop? The weird jingoism that came over the US after 9/11 creeped me out. Guess who was vindicated when the WMDs were never found and it took a different president sending SpecOps into a different country to finally kill bin Laden.

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5.“Buying and selling children — aka adoption.”

I mean…Then what should we be doing? Just leave those kids to the streets/Foster homes? And I’m pretty sure other countries have adoption. I’m probably just uninformed, but I have no idea what the alternative should be.

(I understand if our current procedure needs refining, but I don’t see why adoption is inherently bad)

Edit: I had no idea other countries didn’t have to pay for adoption, I thought was was the norm and thought they were talking about process. Guess I’m the example of what the article was talking about.

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“Edit: I had no idea… I thought it was the norm”

Thanks for confirming the article 😁

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not a lawyer or an expert but a quick Google seems to indicate in the US you have to pay to adopt a child, whereas I believe it’s free / you get paid in European countries.

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I’m in Canada, but much of the cost of adoption is the same.

  • Legal fees to change the parentage (and sometimes the name) of anchild.
  • Counselling for the birth parents.
  • Travel costs for the birth parents.
  • Background checks for the adoptive parents (legal, medical, and financial).
  • Counselling/social work for the adoptive parents.
  • Payment to the adoption agency for facilitating the whole process.

The only significant difference I know of in the US is that some ahencies are for-profit, and medical costs aren’t covered by unicersal healthcare, so have to be added on.

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Adopting children from US Foster Care systems actually come with perks (guaranteed Medicaid) and a stipend of sorts. Adopting newborns can cost $50k. It’s wild.

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I was not aware of that, do you have more details on hand ?

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Ohhh, that makes since. I didn’t even think to look that up, I thought that was the norm everywhere (paying for adoption, etc)

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The premise in action before our very eyes.

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This is some garbage. Adoption is NOT buying and selling children. I mean, I guess that happens under the guise of adoption. But tons of kids in foster care need permanent homes and loving families, and their biological family is not an option for any number of reasons. It is a tragedy that this happens, but fuck off with this narrative that adoption is buying and selling kids. Tons of other shit in there was bogus too. Fuck this article.

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I’d imagine they were meaning to refer to the practice of foster “parents” signing up to take in kids in order to receive money money every month that they use mostly as personal income for themselves while neglecting the kid. Cuz yeah, adoption is very different.

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Yeah, that was a super weird inclusion.

Now, propublica did a great multipart series on people actually selling and buying children on Craigslist and Facebook. Foster parents take kids in for the money, then shuffle them off to basically predators. Not basically, they were almost all predators. Just by getting in touch with them via email after finding each other on Craigslist or Facebook groups. These kids were just driven sometimes hundreds of miles and dropped off with someone entirely unknown in a Walmart parking lot.

It was horrifying, but I can’t find the article anymore. I could’ve sworn it was propublica, but now I’m second guessing that, unless they had to take it down, maybe by claims from meta.

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Doesn’t pledging allegiance to a piece of colored fabric count as “worshipping a false idol?”

You know… considering they’ve got that whole ten commandment thing coming and all.

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It’s also not required on a daily basis, or even at all. Haven’t actually said the pledge since grade school.

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Yeah it’s hard to force adults to do mindless cult shit. But it’s completely normal to force that on kids.

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Women’s circles, usually connected to lesbian and witchy communities will keep track of doctors who will perform tubal ligations or other sterilization techniques on demand, because it is so common for doctors to refuse women’s personal choices about fertility.

And every time there’s a big policy event that threatens family planning and reproductive rights, another bloc of women go for appointments to seek long-term and permanent contraception, because pregnancy is too much of a liability to leave up to chance, especially in anti-abortion states which have little to no maternity services either (all the OBGYNs closed shop and left).

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