Some mix of wrong and right, the exact proportions of which I’ll leave as an exercise to the reader.
There is a reason some of us chose to support Debian and its model of allowing downstream companies like Ubuntu (Canonical) to give back up to the open source father. And this is it. We dont need to compromise here. We already have a system that works perfectly and provides a choice for what suits you. If you are an enterprise then try Ubuntu instead of RHEL. If you are a home user you dont need enterprise support and can help us log bug reports and create the next version of Trixie. We need more testers and we have fought this long fight and proven we wont give up. What other proof do you need?
I got a feeling that the kind of people that use Rocky or Alma linux would have a heart attack dealing with snap on ubuntu. Maybe they’re better off switching to Debian LTS instead.
As an inexperienced user, I can tell you that Debian is way harder to use than most people think. Out of the box, the distro is pretty bare ones. I’m having a blast using an Arch based distro, but on Debian I had to do everything manually. Stable is freaking old and unstable has lots of limitations, Docker for example is a true pain.
Ubuntu, Mint, Zorin, POP OS, are way better than Debian for users like me.
Stable is freaking old and unstable.
I ll give you old but not at all unstable, wonder what instability have you found in LTS.
More recently, we have determined that there isn’t value in having a downstream rebuilder.
Alright, well, there it is in plain English. They’re killing downstream clones like Rocky, Alma, etc.
I have to wonder how this is going to affect software which officially only supports (insert RHEL clone here). I use DaVinci Resolve for work every day, historically they’ve only supported CentOS, and just recently they started supporting Rocky as well. VFX isn’t my wheelhouse, but I know the situation is basically the same for those programs as well.
I am actually wondering whether they’ll start considering a Flatpak version of Resolve. Seems like Blackmagic is reluctant to support anything other than RHEL and CentOS, and RedHat seems to be moving towards Flatpak anyways, given their recent move to stop shipping LibreOffice.
They’re killing downstream clones like Rocky, Alma, etc
Luckily I found them all hard to use for the desktop anyway, usually way too outdated. Would be interesting to know if and how this will affect Fedora, which is the upstream distribution and much better suited for the desktop for now.
You aren’t the primary customer for RHEL, or user here they’re trying to get money from. Businesses run this primarily on servers and have used CentOS historically (now Rocky/Alma) to help expand beyond the RHEL they pay for, if they pay for it. They think businesses will pay up for RHEL now, rather than just move to Amazon Linux or another distro entirely like Debian.
Not sure how many desktop customers RHEL has to he honest. Don’t know of any businesses of scale that they would buy RHEL that use Linux on the desktop
Lots of words to say:
- We do what we are legally allowed to do.
- We don’t care for the spirit of open source (anymore).
- Pay up or fuck off!
headline: IBM STILL DOESN’T UNDERSTAND ITS RESPONSIBILITY WITH OPEN SOURCE
Nothing much more to see here; just, the spots have finally come in on the leopard.
But, as IBM isn’t responsible for systemd, ansible and similar trumped-up barely-capable competitors, it’s not all IBM’s fault. Let it sell crutches as long as it can.
Guess me as an end user for Fedora should stop contributing my time and energy to identify and fix bugs, or get Fedora’s name out there, because I FIND NO VALUE in giving Red Hat my FREE work.
One thing while I worked at Red Hat, they will under pay you, they will push you beyond the breaking point, they will under value you, because “we will change the world.” And apparently you change the world by all those things I just mentioned.
