GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l…::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.

124 points

I’m not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn’t have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

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40 points

I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.

A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/

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GM is also competing for a piece of the $5.5 billion connected commercial vehicle market, as PYMNTS reported recently.

The company offers a fleet telematics solution called OnStar Vehicle Insights that features a vehicle locator, vehicle health, driver behavior, performance insights, daily trip summaries and remote commands. This last tool lets drivers lock, unlock and remote start the vehicle from a website or app.

I would rather have none of that in my vehicle, thanks.

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4 points

I like my vehicles like I like my software - buy once for the features that exist now; upgrade when there is a compelling reason to do so. This rent-seeking subscription bullshit is crap.

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17 points

I agree. It’s a line in the sand at this point.

I remember back in the 90s looking at these super cool CD players people and installed. I’m sure the nice ones were insanely expensive. CarPlay/Android Auto is a better UI than literally any other option ever put in a car. End of story.

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1 point

apple and google are helping lead the charge against carplay and android auto

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10 points

I refuse to own a car that doesn’t have a DIN slot for my own tech.

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5 points

What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I’ve had lately and aren’t even modern have proprietary shit

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1 point

I have a 2016 Jeep which is relatively modern and installed an aftermarket head unit.

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1 point

car makers started phasing out dins in 2013 and they don’t give warnings if newer models don’t include them, so you better buy sooner rather than later

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1 point

It is unlikely that I will ever buy something newer than 2005. I’m in a 1994 right now.

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4 points

I think the idea is to get you to pay for data for your car. Tesla is often cited as doing the same thing (eg no phone projection, use the built in), but their unlimited data price is super reasonable at like $100/year. I am not sure what GM is charging, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s more.

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23 points

Yeah but I also already pay for a phone and am tired of being nickel and dimed at every opportunity. The price of the service isn’t necessarily the issue – it’s the fact that there is a price to begin with.

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6 points

Totally agree. Don’t tell me more reasons why I want to pay like, “your car is a hotspot now!”. I can already do that with my phone. There’s no need to have a data plan per device in my mind if you already have a modem in your pocket.

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I am not sure what GM is charging

To be honest, I don’t really care what it costs I wouldn’t pay. No car manufacturer in the world has ever produced a car with a good mapping system. I can’t imagine why anyone would pay anything at all for a product that’s worse than the free one in their phone.

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4 points

And you can add horrible UIs to that list too, that GM system looks like ass

I’ve got a Dodge Journey they have horrible looking icons from 1995 with a shit looking red backdrop

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2 points

Yep agree. Even if it’s super reasonable now, just wait until they’ve got everyone. It’s the enshittification of the auto industry.

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3 points

What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?

that’s why theyre doing it and both apple and google are helping them.

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57 points

Ladies and gentlemen… FROM the company that brought us “Cadillac CUE” (all-capacitive-buttons information controls)…

…Something nobody wants!

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15 points

I worked at a Cadillac dealership and I absolutely HATED the cars that had these. Barely functioned in the winter time

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2 points

Had that in my '17 CTS, the screen did it’s normal “I’m in control now” thing of random touch inputs until I finally had enough. Bought an aftermarket screen without the gel layer and replaced it, it was much better than OEM.

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53 points

55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯

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46 points

with an aspect ratio of 20:1 across the entire dash.

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5 points

yeah but it’s like 5" high.

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43 points

I would literally walk out of the dealership

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23 points

The only reasonable response to walking into a GM dealership

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5 points

laughing, too

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I still don’t understand why car brands don’t just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they’re from the early 2000s.

That 55-inch interface they’re showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.

Edit: Apparently, it’s running “Google built-in” which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS and it’s just running some proprietary launcher on top.

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12 points

I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it

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8 points

That’s implying that they’ll push updates at all

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4 points

We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.

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3 points

Subscription based for a few years z then they’ll just drop it

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2 points

Nissan stopped updating the navigation for my 2016 car last year.

So… Pretty shit

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I remember when updates to cars were called product recalls and they only happened in exceptional circumstances.

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