This was posted on one of the videos on the channel of archaeologist Flint Dibble (yes that is his real name, his dad is also an archaeologist and his brother’s name is Chip).

As it said, he debated Graham Hancock on Rogan because he felt Rogan’s audience needed to hear from an actual archaeologist about the nonsense Graham Hancock was pushing and hopefully get them interested in real archaeology, which I feel is a solid reason for going on Rogan and doing what he did. Too bad more actual experts aren’t asked to go on Rogan.

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If you fell far enough down the crazy hole to 100% genuinely believe you had, in fact, ridden dinosaurs… I think it’d be hard not to feel superior to literally everyone else. I mean, what do they know? They haven’t even ridden a dinosaur.

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Plenty of people ride dinosaurs!

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Yeah, but what if someone else got to ride a T-Rex and all they got to ride was this derpy-looking incisivosaurus?

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That’s what homo habilis skeletons rode in the previous era’s version of Minecraft.

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Flint Dibble sounds like a MST3K Dave Ryder name

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I thought it was another of Dale Gribble’s pseudonyms to order pizza.

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Blast Hardcheese.

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My wife got this for me one Christmas. I used to use it as a pencil and pen holder at work:

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Big McLargeHuge

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If you could ride a dinosaur, what kind would you choose?

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Umm, I guess that depends on my level of technology. If I had some sort of suit that would withstand the pressure and would let me breathe indefinitely under water, then Large Mosasaurs or Livyatan which could get up to 59 feet.

And if that technology is unavailable, then a Spinosaurus for the land and a Quetzalcoatlus for the air. That way, I have the smallest chance of being attacked by other dinosaurs.

And just for fun I know it’s not a dinosaur but I would LOVE to ride or touch or encounter a Arthropleura Read more here: https://www.geologyin.com/2020/05/largest-land-dwelling-bug-of-all-time.html

Millipedes are so god dam cute!

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Pff. I fly and I evolved before them.

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Fucking t-rex, obviously.

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Why not a pterodactyl? I’ll firebomb you riding your stupid little gimpy armed t-Rex from above and you wouldn’t even stand a chance

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Why not a pterodactyl?

Because quetzalcoatlus existed.

It probably ate pterodactyls if it could catch them.

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Whoa whoa whoa. I was under the impression that I would be riding a dinosaur for recreation, not prehistoric warfare. You just go around firebombing dinosaur equestrians all willy nilly?

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Spoken like someone who forgot about Pterosaurs…

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I like Graham Hancock. He’s got some neat theories. Are they truth? Dunno. Am I gonna hassle some academic and be a dick about something because of them? No.

Remember back before someone put together the orientation of the Pyramids at Giza and Orion’s Belt? It was pretty astonishing if one had lived with the Pyramids for a long time and saw them as just sort of misaligned for ? reasons. Some guy had to get razzed for twenty years to get that out there before the interwebs.

We’ve over-compensated a bit, yeah.

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I’ve literally never heard he name. Want to hit me with some of his most interesting theories?

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Well the main one is that he posits there was a broad-reaching civilization on Earth that was effectively wiped out at the start of the last ice age, about 12,000 years ago.

Typically the Mesopotamians, around 6,000 years ago are considered the first civilization. So it’s not likely to get any support for the idea of “civilization” before that. Most of what a civilization had is usually wiped out after a millennia or three. (Or deliberately destroyed, thanks The Pope.) Connecting them is difficult, but he finds interesting parallels, examples, possible ways it could have happened, etc.

One of those ways is through paleoastronomy, which upsets basically everyone and their dog, but it says essentially earthworks created to point to or mirror astronomical features can tell us things like when they were built. Or, with enough like-examples suggest a common theme or purpose.

He’s engaging and intelligent, and pretty laid back about the wild theories which makes some people really dislike him. Here’s a set of specials he did in the 90’s? I think? Which are pretty thought provoking if you’re into that kind of thing.

What I don’t buy is that all of history has been discovered, correctly interpreted, and sewn up with a bow on top. But I understand he’s particularly annoying to academics because he wants to be an explorer, an educator, a theorist, an archaeologist, an anthropologist, an astronomer; and yet he hasn’t completed coursework or any other feats of strength to prove he knows anything about those things. Skeptics just hate him immediately on the face of everything. Which, yeah. That also makes sense.

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First of all, Graham Hancock is a racist.

In a May 2000 essay published on his website, Hancock writes: “I have consistently argued that the Americas were inhabited in prehistoric times by a variety of ethnic groups – Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid … Such ideas have caused deep offense to some American Indians, who have long claimed to be the only ‘native’ Americans.”

He goes on to describe various prehistoric artifacts that he says prove the presence of Caucasians and Africans before Columbus landed on the continent in 1492. This includes his research into the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl, who he says was described by the Aztecs as “tall, white-skinned and red bearded – sometimes blue eyed as well”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/01/netflix-ancient-apocalypse-canceled

Secondly, here’s why he’s just wrong. I wrote this in another thread:

There is a very simple reason that we can say with relative confidence that there were no earlier civilizations that vanished and that reason is domestication.

There is just no evidence of plant or animal domestication before a certain date range and, while that date range does keep getting pushed back, it doesn’t get pushed back in a way that suggests any sort of civilization even as advanced as Sumer existed before Sumer. It gets pushed back in the “they were planting and harvesting this crop but didn’t know how to make it very nutritious yet” sense.

We can see based both on morphology and genetics that there’s no sign of any sort of civilization that domesticated plants and animals which then went feral after the civilization collapsed and, even with massive sea level rise, there should be some evidence. Sea levels didn’t rise all of the sudden. There would have been people who had time to escape with their animals and seeds. Also, plants just have a habit of escaping on their own.

You need farming in order for a civilization to advance. You can’t feed a large population via hunting and gathering.

https://lemmy.world/comment/11529789

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I’m against gouging the gullible, but the bias is mostly because it would mean predation of my family and already fragile support network…

However… gooning dino kink for £25k sounds greyish boarder legit. Where’s the Khan academy 411?

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I’ve got a week long intensive course. It’s only £25k. You’ll need to bring your own ghostwriters.

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