I read on reddit that on Lemmy you can see users’ upvote/downvote history. I therefore expected to be able to see upvote/downvote breakdown by user for my own comments. But couldn’t find this. Does this feature exist or is that a myth?
Hmmm, tbh, I don’t think that’s a feature I’d want. Every now and again you see “that guy” furious that he’s getting downvotes, doubling down and trying to start an argument or something. I don’t need that guy showing up in my DMs.
Oooh, good point. As an admin/moderator feature, that’s a much better idea.
It actually already is a feature. Kbin puts it upfront, and I think lemmy also has a way to access it.
I think it remains to be seen whether or not it’s a good idea.
I’ve seen some people say they like the idea because it make people think twice about downvoting - it cuts back on the instinctive “I don’t like this so I am gonna downvote.”
But, as you said, do we really want people coming after you because you downvoted them? There are crazy ass people out there, and if you ever get doxxed it could be a problem.
Maybe that last point is hyperbole, but crazy people are gonna do crazy things.
“karma” (as reddit calls scoring) never was more true to its name. :)
I haven’t looked at Lemmy’s implementation of upvotes/downvotes, but they should be ActivityPub activities, so it means they should appear by making a request to the user’s actor.
EDIT: I’ve just checked random users outbox (that’s the ActivityPub name for the list of activities), included mine, they are actually just empty. So that probably means that Lemmy is only publishing the upvotes/downvotes when pushing activities to federated servers, which would make those activities way more private, although not completely : someone could setup their own instance to learn about them, and it’s best to be assume that at some point, someone will start such instance and publish an app revealing all votes for everybody (plus, as others mentioned, Kbin is already doing it).
Yeah agree I am not sure that’s a feature I’d want either tbh if it wasn’t already there. But seems like it is in some form.
Yeah, having it on your user page is much less dangerous, imo. Still a possibility of getting called out if you downvote someone you’re arguing with, but you’re already in the comments there.
The only way I see a problem is if someone writes a bot or extension that reads the user profile into something “per comment”, and if that gets enough traction and use to build up a strong database. However, in that case, I’d imagine the Lemmy devs would build a feature to let instance admins hide that information from regular users.
It’s part of the ActivityPub protocol. It’s inherent in the system unless you don’t want votes to register on anything but the local server.
Don’t vote if you aren’t willing to own your interactions. Stop being a troll.
If you aren’t willing to own your interactions with people, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it? Why do you feel the need to hide? Thought processes like this are what leads to toxicity online. If you aren’t willing to own your comments and votes, you shouldn’t be allowed to interact with people in a community.
We call people that want to be negative online while remaining anonymous a troll. Don’t be a troll.
Oh, I know who upvotes me. It’s the awesome people.
And the people who downvote me are the people that suck.
Don’t get your feelings hurt by fake internet points, m’dude.
On Kbin, you can: https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.ml/t/329396/How-many-of-you-are-actually-chatbots/votes/down
On Lemmy, it’s available on the AP available in the database, so an admin instance can get that, but I don’t know of any client that offers the feature
i don’t think it’s in the api. is in the DB, but not exposed anywhere. one instance admin could do query and see them.
What are downvotes seen by kbin users on lemmy content? It could just be the kbin instance’s local downvotes of the federated content but I never noticed a lack of down votes on lemmy-hosted content when I was running a personal kbin instance.
kbin doesn’t federate (in or out) downvotes. To the best of my knowledge lemmy doesn’t either. But, I’m not 100% on that.
Is that info federated or just the count? Might still be trivial to get the info if it’s the former.
If that becomes a thing i will stop voting on posts and comments.
