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Question. Who are they actually suing? Didn’t the bozo die along with everyone else? So who would hold responsibility?

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Estate, insurance companies

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The company itself (oceangate) still exists. The estate of Stockton Rush is also named in the suit.

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It appears they are suing OceanGate, the company that made the submarine. The use of cheap, consumer grade hardware for critical functions (literally controlling the sub) is one of their criticisms.

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I don’t see why the controller is a problem.

If you go out and custom-make a controller, it’s not likely going to be more reliable than anything that Logitech makes.

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16333376/us-navy-military-xbox-360-controller

US Army used to spend $38,000 per controller until they found out Xbox controllers were better

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iirc they mentioned the f710 constantly disconnected.

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Yeah, but if you’re going to use a wireless controller, don’t fucking skimp and get some cheapo device, at least buy a goddamned 1st party controller. Not that MS/Sony don’t have lemons too, but Logitech controllers are like a half step from the crappy MadKatz controllers from my childhood.

This had to be a project costing somewhere in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, and they’re trying to save $30 on an aftermarket controller?!? That’s the literal embodiment of Penny Wise, pound foolish.

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Logitech… the company whose 150 dollar mouse have double click issues months into the purchase?

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Even if it is the best built controller ever. It was wireless and should not have been used. In terms of safety it’s not something you want to solely rely on. As the article says: “every sub in the world has hardwired controls for a reason”. Logitech is not blamed for anything. It’s about OceanGate using this controller among many other questionable choices.

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215 points

I think Logitech should take responsibility and give them a $30 voucher

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“best we can offer is a replacement. but you will need to return the original”

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I laughed way too hard at that. Bravo.

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136 points

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Brilliant!

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20 points

Maybe a $10 Uber Eats gift card?

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Expires on August 1st, 2024

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The complaint does not allege that the Logitech wireless controller, the carbon fiber construction, Titan’s innovative porthole, or the use of disparate materials with differing expansion/compression coefficients—four main areas of criticism—were individually responsible for the sub’s implosion. But it does suggest that these systems could have together contributed to a “daisy chain of failures of multiple improperly designed or constructed parts or systems.”

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This is such a frivolous lawsuit. Logitech is going to crush them if they even have to go to trial.

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The article doesn’t say they’re suing Logitech.

It’s using the fact that it was a wireless controller used over Bluetooth as part of the evidence that they created a bunch of unnecessary points of failure.

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It’s probably in the user guide or manual: “can only be used with video games”. It it’s used for anything else it’s not Logitech’s problem.

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This is such a frivolous lawsuit. Logitech is going to crush implode them if they even have to go to trial.

There. Fixed it for you.

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8 points

It’s the submarine company/estate of the owner that are being sued for wrongful death

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“Yes, we built the sub wrong, but it’s still your fault for not anticipating someone to try to use these in a poorly built submarine.”

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Titan was an implosion, so the pressure hull failed at some point, we just don’t know what. While the Logitech controller is indicative of the decision making process, it’s one component we can comprehensively rule out as causing the failure.

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Shouldn’t have put the ‘implode’ action on the shoulder button. It was only a matter of time before he triggered it on accident.

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Though he did buy a little shelf for the controller, and the screws were quite long…

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we cant rule that out yet! maybe someone played CoD on the way down, but the high latency made them ragequit, causing a high-quality, robust controller to be accelerated fiercly, piercing the crappy hull.

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What a stupid waste of time and resources.

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