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You know, This kind of shit happens so frequently anymore that if you’re dumb enough to buy things that, for absolutely no reason, requires an internet connection and/or an app… Then you deserve what you get.

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Username checks out

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Hey, I may be a random idiot, but I’ve never fuckin paid a 300%+ premium for a smart device, nor cried when it predictably either died early or started charging for use because corporate fuckery.

You had the choice to not buy it, You can not in the year 2024, not be aware of how this shit always, inevitably goes down.

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Yes let’s make this the consumers’ fault, what with their limitless power in this dystopian fuckscape

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“Its not my fault that I bought a stupid device for $$$Texas more than a normal product and created the market for it, its their fault for making it available for me to choose to buy!”

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Gross oversimplification of a complex issue by a corpo bootlicker? Color me shocked…

They control the market, idiot. As well as the regulatory mechanisms for it.

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It’s sometimes hard to find, I needed a new stove, all the ones I could afford and that had what we needed had a fucking internet connection. I fucking hate it.

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I’m not being sarcastic or attacking or anything, but I find that hard to believe. I spent 2 minutes before posting this looking at ranges and ovens (I dont know if you’re talking about a complete stove unit (burners on top of an oven in a self contained stand alone package) or the oven unit that mounts into a wall, so I looked at both in that time) and I found tons that were cheap (well, cheap as far as these devices ago at least) and none of them had smart connectivity.

It wasnt until I was getting into the high cost items that were $5000+ that smart stuff started appearing.

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I wish! The entire range is what we needed, had to be propane compatible, it was around 1k, at home depot. I genuinely try to avoid IoT bull shit.

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Are you shopping at best buy?

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No, home depot.

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It’s not unreasonable to start charging for an app like that if it is under active maintenance, that costs money for the company after all.

But the lesson for the consumer is: Don’t buy tools that rely on apps or servers ran by someone else unless you want to eventually start paying rent…

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Something so simple shouldn’t require maintenance.

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You realize all these people bought the thing before the app and subscription existed, right?

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Translation:

“Fuck you for not replacing your perfectly fine and still working 10 year old machine and making our line go up more. We’re gonna do our best to brick it because we want all of your money.”

Fuck capitalism. I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

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I mean it is shitty still, but people with an old device and an account already are unaffected, plus the old devices like the one I have is completely operable offline. I’ve not connected it to WiFi except when I first got it to check the app out.

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I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

Same. It’s becoming more difficult every day.

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And that’s so sad. There are a lot of (mainly Elderly people) who don’t even have a smartphone who now often can’t use the most basic stuff necessary because it needs an app.

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A lot of this stuff is only useful if you have money, anyway. And poverty rates among the elderly have been climbing since the Housing Crash of '08

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if I see something requires an app, no matter how good it is otherwise. the product is dead to me. I know it is, effectively, going to break within a year or two.

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I’m getting that same way.

Currently trying to chase down some automatic sun shades that don’t need an app to do time-based cycles. Shouldn’t be this hard, but every band wants you to use absolute garbage apps.

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Switchbot (hardware) and home assistant (controlling server) might fit your needs. It still would require an app, but home assistant is self hosted and is a fantastic automation platform. It won’t be as smooth as an all in one setup, but I find the tinkering is half the fun.

I’ve installed so many hardware items that are either “appless” and are controlled by home assistant or home assistant is compatible and replaced the app. Absolutely worth it IMO. I have been able to make a full self hosted/controlled and offline functional smart house.

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if its not open source; it doesn’t exist.

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I have one of these, and I use it just fine without an app fwiw

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you never know for sure until you try though, so if it requires an app, it’s dead to me and I don’t trust anything else the company makes.

if it has an API i get very wet very fast.

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Yeah, I need to start being better about this. It’s a shame because I bought my joule sous vide because I like the simplicity and ability to monitor and program it remotely (helpful when cooking for 5-6h). App stopped working properly and now they’ve been purchased by breville and if I want to use it I need to switch and I’m guessing it won’t be long before they start to drop functionallity or require some sort of subscription. There are things like this where the app is much more than a gimmick. But it sucks to have some company pulling the strings of what you can or can’t do with your own hardware.

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water+heat proofing is hard, or I’d suggest a DIY solution.

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can’t just root the sous vide?

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Imagine buying a devices that makes you install a program on a device you have to keep on you at all times and which probably contains all of your personal and financial information.

Like 98% of the human race are absolute fucking morons.

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Think about it after 10 years either the app is not supported by your operating system or their server is offline.

I need to gadget that’s works with flip of switch and has all the functions offline even after 10 years.

If people don’t understand this facts they are morons.

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Lol. Hell no.

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