He probably wants to do worse, but can’t say it out load yet. He’s a fucking Nazi.
Yeah, people always seem to think the AfD is one united front.
But they span the whole gamut from Tucker Carlson ultra-right-wing-but-also-no-grasp-on-factual-reality to literally-a-fucking-nazi-wanting-to-burn-jews-themselves-in-their-own-oven.
They’re abhorrend as a party, and the fact that so much of the shit media in Germany low-key supports them hard and pushes people towards voting for them (namely and chiefly the Axel Springer media landscape which is sadly huge) and as a result they get quite a significant number of votes is… “worrying” to put it mildly. As a German in particular, I have genuine plans how and where to move if shit hits the fan, which at the present rate it will. >.> (Ireland, probably)
That’s a kinda dumb assumption of them though. Faschism is a highly state-controlled system. If the government doesn’t like you, you and your property are gone.
I think we should stop calling them conservative and say it like it is. They are (far) right lunatics that fear everyone and everything that doesn’t fit their narrow point of view and outdated values.
Yup! So much so that even members of a party under investigation for being a nazi front tried to expel him.
This is beautiful, though:
After Höcke’s “monument of shame” comment, the Center for Political Beauty, a Berlin-based art collective, erected a full-scale replica of one section of the Holocaust memorial in Berlin within viewing distance of Höcke’s home in Bornhagen as a reminder of German history.
I didn’t, the source I quoted did. Would be pretty weird for me to make a point of adding it as if it makes him any more or less of a nazi scumbag to have that very common in Germany name 🤷
I hate the AFD so much. Me and lots of other Germans try so hard to show the World that Germany is a modern inclusive and liberal Democracy from its deepest core and then POS like Höcke comes along and does shit like this. And I really can’t understand how anyone at all will believe anything that anyone from this shit show of a political party says. They are willing to sell out Germany to Russia, the have shown that they don’t care about anyone and everything they are interested in is spreading hate and getting in Power. I hate them so much.
Like all right-wing parties they lack any actual real agenda. That is, they’re not interested in running the currently existing state, they want their fascist WW3 Nazi Germany with them at the helm. Rather, their entire political “argument” right now is “Current stuff is SHIT!”. That’s how they get all their votes, from people being angry and disappointed.
But, much as I like to ramble about current politicians (since you can’t call the AfD fuckers “politicians”), things can be shit outside of the control of anyone in particular. As if Höcke could have handled COVID. Imagine what a disaster it would have been if he had any say in it. Imagine how even the nascent efforts at climate would be worse. Inclusion, Russia, education, health, there’s not a single topic the AfD would improve if they got power. And they were openly do not intend to improve anything. They’re completely open about it.
but then again …germans. they pretend to be open minded and inclusive. but the deeper you look, there more you see it is a fake. you pin this in afd but seem to have forgotten CDU/CSU, SPD and the other crooks. germans just do not acknowledge it and thereby just feed to it.
example: https://blog.till-westermayer.de/index.php/2017/08/08/rechtsruck-im-political-compass-ernsthaft/
so in 2017 germans wrote blogs there wouldnt be a rise in facism. numbers today say: there is a rise and it did not stop.
what did you do to stop it but bitch?
Did you comb your Hair with a Hammer today? Or did just took a big swig out of a Jug of paint?
No?
Then let me deconstruct your Comment.
“but then again …germans. they pretend to be open minded and inclusive. but the deeper you look, there more you see it is a fake.”
At first you start with generalisation. You’ve never met all Germans, you’ve never get to know them good enough to say what is deep down in them. So this entire paragraph is completely irrelevant and says nothing except for “I have no Argument but I want to say something”.
“you pin this in afd but seem to have forgotten CDU/CSU, SPD and the other crooks. germans just do not acknowledge it and thereby just feed to it.”
Then a healthy pinch of “What-about-ism”. We are talking about the AFD not about the shortcomings of other political Partys. No one said they did everything right and no one said it’s only the fault of the AFD. You just made that one up!
“so in 2017 germans wrote blogs there wouldnt be a rise in facism. numbers today say: there is a rise and it did not stop.”
And then you present one example which has a relevance close to nothing. If you can’t follow why here are two things that literally changed Europe if not the World and happend after 2017:
-Corona Pandemic 2020 -Escalation of the Ukraine Conflict to full scale War 2022.
These events and especially the political followup were not predictable in 2017. So what you are proving is widespread common Knowledge: The world was different in 2017. Congratulations that you realised this now. Better late than never.
“what did you do to stop it but bitch?”
And to put the Cherry on top a personal insult which bears again no significance to anything. But I will answer your question anyway. Since I’m a civilized Citizen of Germany and not some violence ridden fashist I will go and vote and call out fashism and disinformation everywhere were I see it.
All in all your debating skills are on the level of 4 Year old. You present facts which are outdated and are irrelevant. You try to steer the debate away from its original topic. You set up Strawmen. And you get insulting if you have nothing else to say.
If you have the mental capacity to do so, work on that. Until then I have nothing else to say to you.
I wish you a terrible Day!
but hurt much? i am not going to read that wall of text. call me a fouryear old or learn how to write facism…dont care.
I know a person who has worked as an individual assistant of special needs pupils for many years and he thinks that specialized schools can provide better and more adequate care than the inclusive approach in common schools. Criticism of our education system is necessary and important but what Bernd Höcke has to say about it is of course irrelevant. Even if a part of his criticism might be accidentally valid, he -as always- is criticizing these things for the wrong reasons because of his neonazi background. Has this guy even worked with special needs pupils? From what I know he was just a generic history teacher before he went into right-wing populism so his competence in the matter is questionable at best.
I don’t have a wide experience to draw on but I have one very vivid direct experience of this.
Years ago I was shadowing a teacher for a day when I was considering teaching as a career. In one class there was a kid who had a gonzo remark to make for everything the teacher said. The whole class laughed at his every word. It was really disruptive. He made a clown of himself and the teacher did nothing. Even stranger, his girlfriend was practically sitting in his lap, stroking his wrist, and kissing his neck the entire time, and the teacher also did nothing. The whole flow of the class was destroyed and I remember nothing else from that hour. It blew my mind that the teacher just let it happen.
Later, I realized that my interpretation of what I’d seen was all wrong. The kid wasn’t a smartass. He was differently abled. He wasn’t trying to be disruptive, but he couldn’t control himself well and kept reacting out loud to the lecture, saying things like “oh shit they shot the archduke?” It did create a funny effect, but the class was mostly laughing along with him. Perhaps he had Tourette’s? And it wasn’t his girlfriend kissing him, it was his dedicated teacher sitting with him, whispering in his ear to try to coach him and get his disruptions under control.
I was across the room from him with an obstructed view and the dedicated teacher was very young which all helped me misread it at first.
But still. The level of disruption was totally undeniable. In addition to consuming an entire teacher of his own, the kid took over the rest of the class and impacted everyone.
I couldn’t have designed a costlier setup with worse results for everyone if I’d tried.
I couldn’t have designed a costlier setup with worse results for everyone if I’d tried
You severely underestimate the costs of effective special education schools. In general, dedicated special education is more expensive than embedding care in general schools. What you saw was a cost cutting measure, and the student and teachers in that class paid the price.
What is cheaper is basically warehousing disabled students until they turn 18 without making any effort to teach them anything. That’s undoubtedly going to be the next step.
A dedicated teacher per disabled pupil seems pretty far from warehousing them. One teacher for the other 45… that’s closer to “warehousing” in my opinion.
If you’re to dedicate a single teacher to every disabled student, that’s pretty extraordinary resourcing by public school standards. But dropping that into an already crowded classroom and expecting the kid to consume the same curriculum in the same way… that’s just madness born of some zeal for equality.
I have to ask how big was this school. One one of the schools I went to had only one deaf kid in the whole student body. So the school couldn’t just put in special classes by himself and hire a whole new set a teachers for him. Now given deafness and what ever that kid had are very different and need different accommodation.
Yeah that’s a good counterexamples. Especially if your example was in a rural area I could see how there is no better alternative. My example was in a school of 1000 kids in a densely populated area.
I don’t have that particular condition, but what I have has the possibility of being inconvenient to others. You might be pleased to know that I’ve spent more than a decade detached from society for the convenience of normal, healthy people. May you get everything out of life that you hope to.
There is the socialization angle as well and not just for the disabled student. Everyone in that classroom saw the accomodations made to that student. It normalizes disabled people in society and normalizes the accomodations they need.
Not in this example. Disabled accommodations usually don’t harm everyone else. If you think it’s okay for all the kids to get a substandard education so that they can witness the disabled getting accommodation, well, first of all we’re going to fight, but also I think you underestimate how this sets him up for persecution, not appreciation.
First people push for mass abortions of disabled people (see Iceland), next they try to make living disabled people’s lives horrible. Eugenics is making a comeback and nobody cares.
We care. We don’t have the same resources as some of these assholes, but we care.
I brought this up on your instance and the mod deleted it and called me a slur
I’d say by the amount of comments on here that no one actually cares in Europe about the rise of Fascism, as whenever it gets brought up, people just deflect. Reddit was notorious for this
we really need to find a way to blunt the outside influence on our societies in Europe, a lot of the conservative-fascist push is coming from propaganda media of both the Russian state and rich conservatives like Murdoch (who, btw, is walking a fine line of not quite open neo-nazi at this point)
I’m more sympathetic to letting people choose to abort fetuses with clear genetic or physical problems.The world isn’t made a better place by more people with down syndrome. Very early genetic testing is helpful here.
However, not letting these people who do exist, and to some extent will probably always exist, live full enriched lives to the extent that they are able is rather horrible.
What does “mass abortions” mean exactly in this context?
You’re probably talking about Iceland’s “100% abortion rate for people with down syndrome”? Which comes to about 1 or 2 cases per year.
Exaggerating much?
Later added: "They need special care, we need to withdraw them from our normal schools and build camps to keep them together, preferably with easy rail access.
