I really wanted to post this on !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net but I’m not trans myself and I didn’t want to take up their space.
Basically, the devs of Lemmy are looking to make upvotes public to everyone. Right now, I believe voter identities are known to server admins and mods.
I don’t have a strong opinion on this myself, either for or against, as I write this comment, but I’m wondering if there’s something I’m missing, frankly as a cishet dude.
But also… I’ve kinda lost trust in Nutomic making decisions about the software that won’t make things worse for trans people since his comments on the Olympics were made public. Dessalines has (so far) at least tolerated Nutomic’s transphobia despite whatever prior rhetoric. Frankly, I am suspicious that trans people don’t matter to the Lemmy dev team…to be charitable…so I’d really like to hear your thoughts.
The potential for drama is
Now when people get into a spat they will be able to compile a list of everyone who sides with their enemy or agrees with them
Personally, admin can already see votes if we need to purge reactionaries which is plenty of transparency as far as I’m concerned. Although imagining a big struggle session on here with public upvotes is very funny, I’ll admit
Me destroying someone’s tl;dr novela of a post with “[bad take] upvoter.”
Now when people get into a spat they will be able to compile a list of everyone who sides with their enemy or agrees with them
Awesome, dude. That sounds like totally normal and non-toxic behaviour. Terminally online people looking for new ways to be terminally online.
RIP “food for thought” upvotes
if my upvote is perceived as a public co-sign, it’s gonna be a lot less common
Personally I don’t see an issue with that. Back in the old days most posts didn’t have likes.
Yeah, we used this to check for people mass down voting trans users and then banned them(then down votes was removed)
Personally? I don’t want it unless I can toggle a setting that makes my likes private. I don’t want to wake up to 50 messages because I liked something that I wasn’t supposed to because I was half asleep and didn’t know the entire post history of a user.
I’m going to get roasted for forgetting to upbear the threads i post in
I already feel guilty when I don’t upbear someone I’m talking to and now I will feel even more pressure to do it to keep the tone friendly even if I don’t like their points.
as somebody who upbears everything they see before I even read it (and then removes it if I dislike what the person is saying) whenever I get into mini-debates on here and the other person doesn’t upbear my comment before replying, for about five seconds I perceive that as “fuck you, 72T.” before I then realize that many people are like you and just don’t upbear things that often.
I guess it’s just a holdover from reddit culture where you’ll see a comment thread 50 comments deep where both commenters have 0 votes on each comment because they’re both downvoting each other, and on here, not voting is the closest thing you have to a downvote
Yes absolutely this needs to happen. This will be hugely helpful for establishing accountability for people who upvote awful posts.
Ngl sometimes I upvote stuff out of habit, I catch myself going back to a thread and realizing I upvoted some heinous stuff on accident lol
I honestly do this too (upvote almost everything, but I try to avoid anything that might be problematic) but I do think people would (hopefully) take into account accidents when looking at a user’s overall history.
That’s a good question, actually…. Are the visible upvotes per post or could you go to a persons account and view everything? I’d kind prefer the latter just to avoid jumping to conclusions if someone does accidentally upvote something bad.
This happens to me constantly on mobile because every app is really sensitive about left/right swiping. I could just turn gestures off but I’ll probably never vote on anything if I have to hold tap on something to open the menu and click the up arrow. So realistically I’m gonna catch some likes and bookmarks on some weird stuff.
Since the for comments are downthumbed and the against comments are upthumbed on the GitHub issue, anyone who feels this way should vote accordingly there (where your votes are also public).
