Every time I try to access this community, ther’s some kind of problem with the server. If you have a look at the status page, it’s almost all orange/red.
The problem aren’t DDoS attack since the server is behind Cloudflare protection.
Admin/mods, why don’t you move this community to a different server instance?
I’m not accusing anybody, I know that maintain a server can be a challenging sometimes, I just want to enjoy this community!
Please!
@Loki
ADMIN, isn’t it time to move from lemmy.world?
They said, from their lemmy.world account.
What’s wrong with that? I’ve started here some months ago and I mainly follow this community.
The problem is it’s the largest and is being attacked. Use a different instance and you’ll have no problem accessing this community. If it weren’t for people posting about the outages, I’d never even know.
Because you could go to another instance and the people who like it here would stay on this instance. You sound like you have an agenda but none of us have slightest idea of what that would be.
I actually didn’t think about it.Icm on Lemmy, but I’m not a Lemmy specialist so I didn’t know that I could go to a different instance and access this communit indirectly. Thanks
P.s. I didn’t get the agenda part.
The problem is DDoS attacks. See: https://lemmy.world/post/2923697
They explained that the attacks are in the form of requests that tax the database server, not the website itself.
The database can’t be accessed directly, all the requests needs to be done from the website or API.
Yep Cloudflare protects against classic DDoS (like many clients doing a lot of small requests). Here attacks are performed presumibly by users that know very well how the Lemmy’s backend works and where bottlenecks are, so that with a small number of well made requests they are able to mess up the backend and Cloudflare doesn’t notice it
Cloudflare DDos protection isn’t a silver bullet; the attacks are distributed and come from shifting source IPs, and are sophisticated in that they exploit resource intensive queries specifically designed to overload a Lemmy instance. If lemmy.world were to pivot to some other instance, who’s to say the culprits wouldn’t just resume their efforts pointed at the new location? There are theories these may be carried out by the recently-defederated fringe hate communities
Cloudflare has DDoS protection but it can’t stop everything 100% of the time. According to the admins, the attackers are very familiar with how lemmy works and are using this knowledge to overwhelm resources. This isn’t just a simple script kiddy or bonnet for hire but likely points to someone that has worked within the lemmy community.
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/what-is-a-ddos-attack/
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/glossary/web-application-firewall-waf/
From what I understand, Cloudflare can block some DDoS attacks, but not all of them.
The attacks on Lemmy have to do with poorly optimized SQL requests; these are requests that shouldn’t take long to execute, but do due to some oversight. By spamming these requests, the attackers can bring Lemmy on it’s knees.
Actually, wouldn’t this attack better be categorized as a DoS attack ? What’s so distributed about it ?
It can help, but is not perfect. There’s kind of been an arms race between services like Cloudflare and script kiddies/hackers DDOSing: Their methods became a little more sophisticated to the point that they keep the traffic shifting from address to address so it’s harder to track/block.
They’ll do other things to mess with the host too like spamming “white noise” pictures to fill up server storage space, so while DDOS attacks play a role, there are other issues at play on top of that.
For what it’s worth, I’ve been using Kbin.social and sh.itjust.works as well and they have also had some issues here and there. No host will be perfect and invulnerable from every attack, and when an instance becomes more popular, it becomes increasingly likely to be targeted by attackers.
Ironic. They could self-host for others, but they couldn’t self-host themselves.
I find this comment section a prime example of dickish hivemind seething over nothing.
There’s a dude, obviously quite fresh in the ways of Mastodon. He probably doesn’t realize all the nuts & bolts supporting the system and how it all works. He is asking a question that is logical, but it needs clarification, like “it doesn’t work like this, my man”.
Instead he gets “Hsssssssssssssss, selfhost it, hsssssssssssssssssssss, interloper, hsssssssssssssssssss, you want to destroy this place, hssssssssssssssss…”
Get a life, eejits.
Your post is more offensive then the others.
Not to mention that the OP is open for interpretation, and it came across (at least to me) as another entitled person moaning about a free service.
Next to that, teaching people about the selfhost option is actually what lemmy is all about. Not beeing owned by a single corporate entity, so endusers have freedom to choose.
If lemmy want to survive, it depends on people who know how to selfhost it.
I agree with you. Lemmy seems to have a lot of entitled people that stifle freedom. It’s pretty disappointing.
I always thought “touch grass” was a stupid saying on reddit. But on here I’ve really wanted to use it. Like …get outside and see the world is chaos and you’re not that significant or special.
They are making an assertion as if it is a statement of fact…and they are, in fact, wrong. That’s ignorant and not helpful for discussion or helpful for understanfing and solving the actual issue. If they had actually asked an innocent question it would be different, but they didn’t. That is why the responses are the way they are.
No. The responses are the way they are, because people who gave them are already thinking they joined some elitistic “muh sikret klub!” group.
Simple “eh, it won’t fix the problem, and here’s why and how YOU can help” would be preferable, but no, special elite force of lemmy underground is too privileged to bother.
Thank heavens not everyone is like that. Saves the number of times I have to hit “block the idiot” button.
Thanks! As you, I thought that this was a community to share thought and knowledge. In fact a couple of guys here pointed out that I could solve my problem accessing this community in another instance, not in the better way, but at least that was helpful!
Well your account is on lemmy.world so how d’ya know the issue isn’t with your own access to the front end?
Many don’t interact with the lemmy.world directly, so we might only see delays in post propogation (if there is such an issue on the backend - I don’t see any but could be wrong).
I agree picking the biggest instances isn’t great from a scaling perspective, but s’gonna be hard to move any community once established.
