Last week, Microsoft mentioned in a support document that it was formally deprecating Windows’ 39-year-old Control Panel applets. But following widespread reporting of the change, Microsoft has either backtracked or clarified its language to remove the note about Control Panel being deprecated in favor of the Settings app. Here’s what the original post said, as also preserved by the Internet Wayback Machine (emphasis ours):

“The Control Panel is a feature that’s been part of Windows for a long time. It provides a centralized location to view and manipulate system settings and controls,” the support page explains. “Through a series of applets, you can adjust various options ranging from system time and date to hardware settings, network configurations, and more. The Control Panel is in the process of being deprecated in favor of the Settings app, which offers a more modern and streamlined experience.

The current version of the page has changed that last sentence considerably. It now says that “many of the settings in Control Panel are in the process of being migrated to the Settings app, which offers a more modern and streamlined experience.

It’s not clear whether this reflects a policy change or just a clarification of language. We’ve asked Microsoft whether it has changed plans to deprecate the Control Pane or if the original version of the support page was just incorrect in the first place, and we’ll update if we receive a response.

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the Settings app, which offers a more modern and streamlined experience.

tl: “modern” means “less usable UI” and “streamlined” means “less functionality”

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No no, “modern” means “includes blank space specifically for us to stick ads on”.

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Less functionality as in “unable to open more than one panel at a time”

I stg Windows, every new UI is aggravating half-baked drivel.

(obligatory remark about the fact I mostly use Linux here)

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I’d classify that as under “less usable UI”. There’s two different concepts in interface design: utility (i.e. can it do what you need it to) and usability (i.e. how easy and effective to use is it).

With utility/“less functionality” I was thinking about people saying they have to still open Control Panel because the “new” Settings still can’t do everything Control Panel can do after what, 12 years?

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It’s somewhat bizarre to me that the settings menu isn’t just a reskinned control panel that either launches the new or old items depending on what they’ve finished so far.

I can’t imagine what they’ve done is easier than rewriting control panel items in full one by one.

You can do a halfway decent job of modernizing just by having an “advanced” toggle that shows the more arcane/less used settings.

I understand the desire to race towards a minimum viable product and get the core functionality into the glossy new thing, but they already had a minimum viable product in the control panel.

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Maybe. I use Settings for quick things like Bluetooth pairing, changing monitor settings, etc. I do use Control Panel a decent amount and would never want it deprecated though.

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Then they would have to remove the various hooks in the Settings app that actually call and open the Control Panel.

How many are there? I can think of several (advanced mouse settings, advanced network settings, printer properties, date & time has a callout back to the old panel…)

Windows 10 came out nine years ago, so they don’t seem in any particular rush.

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Lol. I think they claimed that Settings was going to replace Control Panel when Windows 8 came out. It’s been 12 years. 😂

It’s long overdue for MS to shit or get off the pot. Either allocate some resources to this pet project or give up the pretense that it is ever going to happen.

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I don’t understand why the control panel UI wasn’t modernized instead? Would that really be unfeasible? I think it still might have been less work than to maintain 2 coexistent “settings/control panel” apps and migrate from one to another. Sometimes you have to throw out the old code base and start from scratch. But if you do so shouldn’t you rather distrubute the result when your finished and not in a half-baked compromise-like state?

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I don’t understand why the control panel UI wasn’t modernized instead? Would that really be unfeasible? I think it still might have been less work than to maintain 2 coexistent “settings/control panel” apps and migrate from one to another. Sometimes you have to throw out the old code base and start from scratch. But if you do so shouldn’t you rather distrubute the result when your finished and not in a half-baked compromise-like state?

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Sound is in there too. The one that annoys me is the printer settings being under “Bluetooth” instead of “printers”.

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2 points

Who doesn’t connect their printer over Bluetooth?

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6 points

I get why they did it ( because it’s “printers and other devices”) but seriously would it be that hard to link it in both places? Or actually make a printer settings that works worth a shit so you don’t need the control panel app?

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4 points

The excellent built in audio compressor called Reduce Loud Noises is buried in the Enhancements audio Control Panel.

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“Streamlined”

What a fucking load of steaming bullshit. The Settings app is complete dogshit compared to Control Panel. If I want to click through 6 pages of nested settings pages for Networking, or 1 screen of all the settings in one place, I think I know which one I would call “streamlined”.

Jackasses.

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Also it’s just broken. Try to add an IP without gateway and it won’t let you.

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Funny thing is I remember control panel being criticized for having things too many dialogs deep. Now you have more clicks when using settings instead of less.

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Someone found something that still depends on the control panel that will not be easily moved or done away with I bet.

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More like, the devs already knew but some middle manager promised they would remove it without understanding the ramifications, and now they’ve been schooled.

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4 points

This is totally the answer.

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5 points

Maybe that’s why the dialer app is still there as well.

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1 point

I’m dying to know what it is

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I don’t even use Windows anymore and I cringe at the thought of being forced to use the Settings app over Control Panel.

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As an occasional windows user I was trying to come up with a counter-example for you but I couldn’t think of one lol.

Edit: oh it’s cool that it supports night/dark mode!

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I found it easier to search for settings that are supported by it. It tends to catch things even if the wording you use isn’t the exact name of the setting. The Windows search to bring up the control panel options from before they implemented the Settings app search has never really been reliable unless you recall what it’s actually called.

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Agreed. The new settings window is a vast improvement over the classic control panel. It’s about the only place search is good in Windows and that’s probably why I prefer it when many don’t. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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