Mostly referring to the release of the latest WoW extension which isn’t discussed anywhere (or maybe I missed it)

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Dead? WoW, FFXIV, RuneScape, ESO, have millions of players. What world do you live in that these games are dead?

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Just because people still log in to grind dailies and world quests doesn’t mean the game has the same presence in pop culture it used to. I remember seeing commercials with Ozzy for wotlk, people would talk about the game, you’d see references to it, there was a south park episode about it. It’s just not that relevant or popular anymore.

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You don’t see those commercials anymore because television isn’t relevant anymore. The internet is full of ads for the new WoW expansion, just like it was full of ads for the new XIV expansion and ESO expansion when those released.

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Commercials weren’t the only example I listed.

I consume as much media as anyone, a lot of gaming content, and I don’t recall seeing a single WoW ad in years, not on websites, youtube, or streaming, Maybe you see those ads because you play WoW or other mmos. I haven’t heard any streamers talking about it, no articles or memes outside of dedicated communities.

I’m not saying those things dont exist. I’m just saying, as a general consumer of gaming media, it really doesn’t come up nearly as often as it used to. It’s more niche now, less mainstream. Which, unfortunately, means the player base is less dynamic.

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Do you see the latest WoW expansion discussed anywhere on Lemmy?

I only look at !wow@lemmy.ml, which has a 3 comments on a 4 days post, maybe I’m missing something?

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I think you’re missing that lemmy is a pretty tiny slice of the internet and niche(ish) communities either don’t exist or are mostly inactive. Just because something doesn’t seem to be making waves on lemmy, doesn’t mean it isn’t popular. The community for it just isn’t really here (yet).

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Indeed, so that’s my point.

There were quite active BG3 and Helldivers 2 communities when they released as those are worldwide hits.

If you look at !helldivers2@lemmy.ca vs !finalfantasyxiv@lemmy.world, you instantly see which one is a more active game.

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You don’t see anything except Linux discussed on Lemmy because Lemmy has a couple thousand active users. There are Facebook groups bigger than the entire fediverse.

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WoW hasn’t been synonymous with the MMORPG scene since at least the last 5 years. You didn’t hear much from it because it’s just another expansion, for one of the many currently running MMOs. When was the last you heard about GW2 expansions? Or Elder Scrolls Online expansions?

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Indeed, so that’s my point.

There were quite active BG3 and Helldivers 2 communities when they released as those are worldwide hits.

If you look at !helldivers2@lemmy.ca vs !finalfantasyxiv@lemmy.world, you instantly see which one is a more active game.

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I don’t think most folks have cared about WoW for quite a while now. Those that do are mostly playing on private servers.

FFXIV has picked up all the old wow-heads and is highly active and fun to play.

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By MMO you mean MMORPG specifically? Because MMO in general is the most popular type of games imo… League of Legends, Dota, Fortnite, Valorant, Overwatch - all are super popular. Regarding MMORPG, I see a lot of youngsters play Genshin. I’ve personally been playing a classless WoW pserver lately.

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How the hell are League of Legends or Valorant considered MMOs? Are Rocket League or Team Fortress 2 MMOs? Is Battlefield 5 an MMO now?

The expansion of this term to include 5v5 games is never not going to piss me off.

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I always considered “MMO” as a synonym for “multiplayer”. Anyway, if you take the word “massively” into account, you could also treat is as “massive number of players you could POTENTIALLY reach by joining one of the rooms” (word “potentially” as opposed to “actually reaching at any given moment”). In actual MMORPGs it’s not like you can actually interact with all the people online at the same time, you still are limited by geometry and game logic of the world at least, like no one will ever gather in a single town because people are doing other stuff, or are from enemy factions, etc. And in many MMORPGs there is instancing going on, so even players in mob farming locations can be assigned to different instances and not see each other because of reasons.

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MMORPG indeed!

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Old School RuneScape is alive and well, we got a new boss yesterday, and we’ve been getting drip-fed content all year this year.

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WoW is still massive btw and the latest xpac seems to be a success so far.

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Interesting, thanks!

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