37 points

Map is inaccurate, Japan and South Korea are colonies in all but name

permalink
report
reply
44 points

It’s technically correct, since they’re colonies of the US, not Europe.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

permalink
report
parent
reply
20 points

Just missing the -r recursive flag for the European colony colonies. It’s turtles all the way down.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Turtles?

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

Also fucking Liberia lmao. Absurd.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Imo:

Japanese state is a junior partner, unless you also want to claim Germany is colonized by the US. Parts of Japan are colonial, e.g. Okinawa which was colonized by Japan and is currently a occupied by both Japan and the US military.

Otoh, Korea was subjected to Japanese colonialism, which in SK transitioned into a pro-west puppet government. I think this probably counts as a colonial relation still.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Japan was basically a whole ass empire itself getting colonized, and its imperial core while still being subjugated and extracted from in a colonial way also received extra privileges and continued to be a sort of lesser core for the new American imperial holdings in Asia and the Pacific.

Like the American economic strategy for how to exploit all of those countries was a model (which was explicitly racist, because of course it was) drawn up by an Imperial Japanese economist and the State Department internally was explicitly describing their strategy as wanting to rebuild and restore Imperial Japan as a controlled client state of the US. But then the economic model imposed on Japan itself was also one of colonial extraction as it was industrialized to produce commodities for Americans to consume and harsher working conditions were imposed on Japanese workers on the suggestion of American businessmen.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Ireland not being coloured as colonised is sending me. I understand it’s Europe but how are you going to exclude one of the prototypical examples of colonialism?? Many of the colonies on this map were modeled after the Irish experience. Also love how French Guiana, a literal actual still extant colony in South America (see the little sliver of grey in the north), is labeled as “Europe” because it’s technically a metropolitan province of France (like Algeria was). And Liberia never being colonised by Europe because it was actually colonised by freed American slaves who went “back” to Africa to then immediately set up a horrifying simulacrum of American slavery by enslaving the indigenous Liberians and having actual slave labour until the 1920s. Real “oppressed merely dreams of becoming the oppressor” hours. And of course Korea was a very explicit colony of Japan for decades.

permalink
report
reply
8 points

Liberia was practically a dictatorship for most of its existence. Elections were not fair and fraud was ridiculous. The US controlled almost every aspect of the army and the government. Then, when the American-Liberian president William Tolbert began to make reforms, pushing away the US and initiating relations with the USSR and China, the US supported a native coup by Samuel Doe, which started massacres and repression supported by the US. Until Charlie Taylor attempted a coup in 1989 that broke the country and started an open civil war

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

French guyana lmao

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

The scale of the tragedy is incredible, straight up apocalyptic

permalink
report
reply
5 points

The past 500 years have been one hell of a Dark Age

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

Europe was also colonized by Europe over and over again

permalink
report
reply
15 points

Turkey is considered part of Europe here so shouldnt Saudi Arabia be darker shade of blue because of the Ottomans?

permalink
report
reply
1 point

Depending on your definition of “Colonized or Controlled”, the Ottomans never completely conquered what is today Saudi Arabia - they conquered Hejaz and parts of the Gulf province but never (as far as I am aware) Najd and other parts of the center and south.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Maps

!maps@hexbear.net

Create post
  1. Post maps and stuff about maps.
  2. Don’t post stuff not about maps.
  3. Be nice to each other, struggle sessions are for general comms.

Community stats

  • 68

    Monthly active users

  • 24

    Posts

  • 126

    Comments