Democrats are limp wristed when it comes to Israel. Expect more death, they won’t raise a finger to stop it. Republicans aren’t any better.
Both sides huh? Last I heard the Democrats are negotiating a peace treaty and the Republikkklowns are writing finish them on the bombs.
What’s your angle?
Amazing how that it’s already done peace deal still isn’t done. Almost like dems and bibi don’t care about getting it done
I love your blaming the dems as the world sits by. It’s wild how the dems are more powerful than world combined. Weird almost.
The US has presented 3 separate peace deals that everyone has accepted but Netanyahu has sabotaged at the last minute. That is not the fault of “the Dems”.
At the same time, Republicans have yet to do anything but cheer on the genocide in Gaza and the violence in the West Bank.
The lobbyists getting fat and rich off their layouts from weapons manufacturers will ensure it never gets done. Who do you think Israel is getting all their guns and drones and missiles from? Guess what? It’s the same place Hamas gets theirs from. The only difference between them is the number of bank accounts and off-the-books deals on the way there.
Those bombs will keep flowing to both sides as long as money keeps flowing back. Ideology has nothing to do with it. It’s all about the cash.
As the Zionist elite are the real owners of America, I think nothing will happen.
Just say Jews. You mean Jews.
Globalists, Zionist elite, international cabal…just say Jews.
Your dog whistles are heard loud and clear on the internet these days.
We really need to Make Nazis Afraid Again
There is a difference between “Jews” and “Zionists”. Same as there’s a difference between “Whites” and “White Supremacists”.
Where it starts getting weird are the non-Jewish Zionists and the non-white white supremacists.
Do you know how many Americans the US government kills in the US? Why would they give a shit about one more far away?
Lol.
They responded to this in the past: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/israel-west-bank-and-gaza-travel-advisory.html
This kind of thing is entirely predictable and US citizens have been warned by the State Department about there being an active conflict happening in the area.
So a US citizen died while ignoring a travel advisory from the US government. US citizenship doesn’t make someone invincible, and it doesn’t mean the US military is going to avenge your death (or whatever fantasy you can come up with) if you’re deliberately ignoring the warnings about an area of the world being dangerous. The obligation of protecting citizens was fulfilled by issuing the warning.
There is no legal obligation to protect citizens. Is there an ethical obligation? Kind of no, for reasons you listed, but kind of yes, because the cause of death was predictable and it’s something in the US has partial control over.
From a practical standpoint, we all agree that the US won’t do anything, because they certainly aren’t worried about pacifists in war zones where one of the sides is getting its weapons from the United States.
Yeah a country has an ethical obligation to protect it’s citizens. Which is why countries issue travel advisories. If you ignore the warnings your country is giving you, that ethical obligation doesn’t apply because it was already fulfilled by the warning.
“Don’t go over there, it’s dangerous!”
“Screw you, I’m not listening to you!”
Problem happens.
“Why did you allow this dangerous thing to happen???”
Although there are a bunch of ways the US can apply pressure. I think people overestimate the power ceasing weapon sales would have. While I believe it is the ethically right thing to do. It wouldn’t really hinder Israel’s ability to wage this war. It is allowing them to maintain their very vast stockpiles. But they could probably go years without even getting low, much less running out, without external weapons.
Funny that just last week an American was shot in the head, executed by Hamas, and there wasn’t an Intercept article mentioning it. Maybe it’s just not fashionable to be outraged about it, and it wouldn’t get enough clicks.
“Why don’t you ever talk about the deaths centrists aren’t happy about?!”
I would hope that if you are any kind of US citizen, you would not be happy about it either. There are forest and trees, but you only see one.
I’m not. I’m also not cynically using it to whatabout in favor of a genocidal apartheid state like you’re doing.
We only fund one of these warring terrorist groups. Do not see that difference?
Our taxes paid for the killing of a US citizen.
People expect terrorists to shoot innocent people in the head. They don’t accept it when people claiming to fight terrorists shoot innocent people in the head.
Ask a Palestinian in the West Bank if they think Hamas are terrorists or freedom fighters.
“Terrorist” is a thought-terminating cliche.
Both Israel and Hamas are religious extremists who exploit and murder innocent civilians. Neither one is worthy of our aid or our defense. Send aid to the poor people caught in the middle of this shit and stop sending weapons.
Weapons. That’s the connection.
The US sends vast arsenals to Israel and Israel uses those weapons for genocide and other war crimes.
Are you actually claiming there was no media coverage of the murdered hostages?
There is a very good argument that the role of non mainstream news sources, like the Intercept, it to shed light on the news that mainstream media doesn’t raise.
If the CNN was blasting 24 hours the news about this American being shot, I’m pretty sure the Intercept would not bother either.
Just an observation on the nature of media and events. The Intercept is hardly mainstream. Instead of reporting facts it produces outrage purposed dribble, and this is a good example. In this case, those facts are not determined, and the US State Department is seeking them. That’s the way CNN reported it anyway. Should this turn into an Ashli Babbitt situation, the Intercept will not report it and it will not be here because it won’t suit the fashionable narrative.
On a side note, I wonder what this story has to do with US Politics. Although I do see a mod in the string who should be able to explain that, but probably won’t
