I know of peertube, which is similar to youtube.

But is there anything that is similar to instgram reels, tiktok type stuff.

I imagine it doesn’t exist because the hosting costs would be exorbitant, but I’m curious incase something like it does?

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There’s @loops@pixelfed.social, which is getting a beta release soon

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ooo interesting thanka

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I don’t understand the need really. I mean there is no minimum size. seems like it just need a duration option in search.

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The difference is in the user demographic. You can’t have an algorithm to satisfy both the YouTube audience and the TikTok audience.

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isn’t like the whole federation thing about less algorithm more personal power.

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Well with short form videos your feed could be something more like a Twitter feed where you scroll through content from the accounts you follow instead of a grid of recommended videos where you click on one that sparks your interest. It is a different experience. Just like you could have a blog where every post is under 140 characters but why do that when you could just use Twitter. (disclaimer I do not claim to understand what has happened with X/Twitter now just assume I’m talking about old Twitter lol)

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yeah feels like its just a gui issue. filter for length then maybe an option in settings. actually my mbin instance scrolls like that and can auto do video. if there was some way to filter the feed for only video of a certain size or less. seems like it would be just what you are describing.

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Dont know if it’s a good idea to implement that in anyways, shorts/verticals formats are not meant to be profitable to people, too short to learn anything only to make money of it

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IIRC Vine and Coub made it mainstream more than 12 years ago, it’s not something new. Gifs are basically a prequel of the format.

If people wouldn’t like it, it wouldn’t survive this long, and wouldn’t be copied by every other company and requested in threads like this. It’s alright if you don’t like them but please let other people have fun. You don’t have to “learn” from everything, it’s just jokes and light entertainment.

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I’m not necessarily disagreeing with your overall point here (I have no idea why people engage with shorts, maybe they do love that format) but I wanted to push back a little on the idea that a product must be popular simply because corporations continue to offer them. Especially with social media, where users are actively discouraged from making their own decisions as much as possible by The Algorithm.

I think there are plenty of examples of things that people continue to use (and often even pay for the “privilege”) despite major aspects of those things being generally reviled by everyone who uses them:

  • ad infested apps and websites
  • gaming microtransactions
  • a new phone every year
  • cable service
  • insurance
  • HOAs
  • gasoline
  • Amazon
  • pants and dresses without pockets
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I think the reason is because its easier to consume when you only have 2 minutes in a queue. Not enough time to read something

And for people who don’t read

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Yeah why did vine fail but tiktok take off? I never understood that

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The announcement comes after Twitter announced across-the-board job cuts earlier on Thursday, with plans to lay off 9 percent of its workforce, which equals about 350 people. The company also said in a letter to shareholders that it was going to prioritize some parts of its business, while deprioritizing others.

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Twitter was financially in a bad shape for a long time, the first year they generated some profit was 2018. Source Vine existed 2012-2017, I think they couldn’t figure out how to monetize it. Twitter was a text based platform, tiktok was designed for video from conception.

But I still don’t know why they didn’t try to sell it instead of shutting it down.

Coub was also nearly shut down in 2022, it seems like it’s hard to profitably maintain a short video service.

One more thing could have an important impact was music rights. Tiktok has special deals with record labels for background music, Coub was Russian, so they could just pirate music. Streaming wasn’t big back than, only spotify existed, labels couldn’t figure yet out how to milk internet users, so I guess Vine couldn’t get as good deals as it would now. Too early, too legal.

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TikTok’s algorithm. It does a lot of things against modern morals but people inherently like them. It is not inclusive and pro-erotic. And ease of use too. Plus state funded money.

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Not meant to be profitable to viewers

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loops.video is in development, from the same dev who did Pixelfed

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Have a look at loops.video, I think the ambition is for it to be an Activity Pub tiktok clone

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