Look at the very first thing that Kissinger says to Pinochet’s Foreign Minister—literally the very first thing [that] he says to him when the meeting starts. Yes, the Foreign Minister comes in, he says, ‘I want to thank you for giving us this opportunity to talk to you’, and Kissinger’s first statement is, ‘Well, I read the briefing paper for this meeting and it was nothing but human rights. The State Department is made up of people who have a vocation for the ministry. Because there were not enough churches for them, they went into the Department of State.’