Even with the new 100% tariff on electric vehicles imported from China, BYD would still have the cheapest EV in the US. According to a new report, BYD’s lowest-priced EV would still undercut all US automakers at under $25,000.

After discontinuing the production of vehicles powered entirely by internal combustion engines in March 2022, BYD has been at the forefront of the industry’s shift to EVs.

Honestly in my opinion it is time to remove all tariffs on EVs under 25k and let anyone who wants to fill that slot in. American car manufacturers refuse to fill the market need.

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America: Capitalism is the greatest! Everyone should do capitalism!

China: we don’t think so.

America: we’re gonna kill everyone who doesn’t do capitalism. Do capitalism ok?

China: Ok then.

America: No, not like this.

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If I were in the US, I would hold out for the Aptera.

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How many decades into waiting for Aptera are you now?

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I would hold out on it, not preorder. I already got ripped off by Sono Sion. I can only hope that it does encourage innovation when it comes out so that eventually in decades it will also be in Europe and I will eventually also be able to use my dusty EV savings account to buy it.

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I just bought a BYD for my parents here in İstanbul. Very satisfied with it so far.

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I have a BYD Seal here in Australia. You yanks are missing out

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I’ll take interest when their labor practices are closer to humane and further from indentured servitude.

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Yeah say what you want about American cars but at least they’re from unionized factories

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I really want the Dolphin but I definitely am in no way near being able to afford it yet.

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My mother in law has the Dolphin, its really roomy for a car that size and quite nice to drive

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Oh yeah? Wheres your carrier battle group, bub?

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You guys will protect us, we give you Pine Gap

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We will protect Pine Gap 🙃

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We miss out on so much from the rest of the world but we have so many pridefully ignorant people that will die on any hill that might improve our lives.

I’d personally love to have more than 0 weeks of government required paid time off, sick days, the top reason for bankruptcy not be medical bills, and no more mass shootings but I will most likely be dead before any of that happens.

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Fun fact. The ten most “American-made” cars of 2023 are:

Tesla Model Y
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model X
Tesla Model S
Honda Passport
Volkswagen ID.4
Honda Odyssey
Acura MDX
Honda Ridgeline
Acura RDX

Hmmm, something seems to be missing… 🤔

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Mercedes, Audi and BMW?

I’m sure they’re right around the corner, pretty close to the top 10.

Oh, you meant Ford, GM and Chryslerdaimlerfiatstellantis?

Yeah nah, as true patriots, they produce in other countries so Americans would pay for the cars, but not be paid to build them.

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For better or worse, there are multiple ways of measuring “American Made”. An alternate measure, which probably matters more in this conversation, is “how many people that worked on <product> are American residents”. Here’s a study that tries to rank each model by how much it contributes to the US economy

The vast majority of the development (engineering, planning, purchasing/supply chain, quality, after sales, etc) effort for Honda and VW is overseas, along with most other non-domestic brands. This extends beyond their own employees to their tier 1s. Many OEMs use suppliers that are located geographically close to their development centers.

None of this excuses the domestic OEMs for their abandonment of cars, their endless march to higher and higher average transaction price, or their quality records.

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What do you mean by putting Honda and VW in the list?

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all the custom cars?

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