Mistral Small 22B just dropped today and I am blown away by how good it is. I was already impressed with Mistral NeMo 12B’s abilities, so I didn’t know how much better a 22B could be. It passes really tough obscure trivia that NeMo couldn’t, and its reasoning abilities are even more refined.

With Mistral Small I have finally reached the plateu of what my hardware can handle for my personal usecase. I need my AI to be able to at least generate around my base reading speed. The lowest I can tolerate is 1.5~T/s lower than that is unacceptable. I really doubted that a 22B could even run on my measly Nvidia GTX 1070 8G VRRAM card and 16GB DDR4 RAM. Nemo ran at about 5.5t/s on this system, so how would Small do?

Mistral Small Q4_KM runs at 2.5T/s with 28 layers offloaded onto VRAM. As context increases that number goes to 1.7T/s. It is absolutely usable for real time conversation needs. I would like the token speed to be faster sure, and have considered going with the lowest Q4 recommended to help balance the speed a little. However, I am very happy just to have it running and actually usable in real time. Its crazy to me that such a seemingly advanced model fits on my modest hardware.

Im a little sad now though, since this is as far as I think I can go in the AI self hosting frontier without investing in a beefier card. Do I need a bigger smarter model than Mistral Small 22B? No. Hell, NeMo was serving me just fine. But now I want to know just how smart the biggest models get. I caught the AI Acquisition Syndrome!

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Hope you feel better soon

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Thanks, I shouldn’t have said I felt sad about it thats a little hyperbolic, just a little bothered. Im much more happy about finding a model that pushes my AI to its maximum potential while still being usable in real time.

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How surprising, I did not see anything about mistral small on HN so I tried it out and it seems pretty good for its size! Thanks for sharing!

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Oh, and you HAVE to try the new Qwen 2.5 14B.

The whole lineup is freaking sick, 34B it outscoring llama 3.1 70B in a lot of benchmarks, and in personal use it feels super smart.

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I run Mixtral on my CPU

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Read up on Hermes3 technical paper and you’ll realize it’s the best one. Running 8B model with the correct initial system prompt makes it as smart as GPT4o

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The linked paper was a good read. Thank you.

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Ironically, if you ask ChatGPT to write you an initial system prompt for Hermes that will sound similar to its own, it will essentially share a trade secret with you and give up portions of its system prompt to make your 8B self hosted LLM perform like a commercial one.

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