120 points

There is no good reason, even with plenty of advance warning, to require a third party account for a single player game.

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25 points

Yup. I get why some people might not care, but I don’t understand the people trying to defend this.

Would these people defend drinking a Verification Can™ as well? After all, it only takes a few seconds.

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5 points

Oh man, I’d forgotten the verification can thing. There’s a blast from the impending dystopian past

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11 points

Yep. On the older games, and Spider-Man, it was optional but you get cool stuff if you do. Why not keep it optional?

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89 points

I will absolutely be playing this game.

I will not be purchasing it, however.

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20 points

Arrrrr you ready kids?

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9 points

Aye-aye, Captain!!!

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10 points

Question is, to pirate it now or wait for the lirate version to get some patches too?

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1 point

I’ve gotten updates for games like Ghost of Tsushima, depends on who it’s released by

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I mean, I like to think Sony made it perfectly clear this time around. There’s really no excuse this time. People were warning other people, Sony had it on the system requirements sheet, and Steam had it listed as soon as the page went up. So if you still picked up the game and then decided to bitch about the PlayStation Network requirement because you didn’t know, that’s on you.

Flipside, if you bought the game just to bitch about the PlayStation network requirement, knowing full well this would be a requirement, you’re way more privileged than me. When I don’t like how someone does something, I typically don’t give them money unless I don’t have a choice.

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69 points

Honestly I appreciate them buying it and expressing the disappointment in Steam reviews. It is the best way to get attention to it since people aren’t going to refrain from buying it. Boycotts don’t work so people expressing their thoughts is the best we got.

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“boycotts don’t work” lmao

The gaming community is incapable of executing an effective boycott because they cannot go 5 minutes without the thing they like. So they’ll pre-order garbage, never learn their lesson, and complain the whole time while paying a premium, instead of exercising restraint and playing something else - like one of their 4,000 unplayed games in their bought library.

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18 points

Boycotts only work when the group boycotting is large enough to impact the bottom line.

Most gamers just don’t care enough about accounts and launchers to boycott a game or company. They just want to come home from work and play games.

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Yeah, they left off the rest of that lesson, which is “boycotts don’t work if you don’t fucking do them”. Boycotts work when they happen, and it’s still a good thing to personally boycott a game you feel isn’t up to your standards even if the broader community isn’t, but it’s been consistently shown nonetheless that gamers are horrible at wide-scale boycotts.

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If people don’t refrain from buying then boycotts won’t work. Gaming community is more effective at creating noise than not buying a product they want.

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1 point

RuneScape would like a word with you

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The gaming community is incapable of executing an effective boycott

If that’s the case, then explain exactly why Sony backed off of the account requirement for Helldivers 2

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29 points

Steam refunds are easy and convenient. I wouldn’t personally bother doing that just to post a “protest review” either, but it’s definitely possible to do without losing any money.

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I did this too much and got a message from steam. I think the refund feature is not intended for testing any game and getting money back. :)

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I think the refund feature is not intended for testing any game and getting money back.

This is the first sentence from the Steam Refunds Policy page: https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds

You can request a refund for nearly any purchase on Steam—for any reason.

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15 points

This is my exact reaction. The issue with HD2 was the bait and switch of adding the requirement at a later date, particularly since they had already sold copies in places where people literally could not make PSN accounts.

Not that I agree with Sony’s decision to require the account for GOW, but at least they’re being up front about it this time. If you don’t want the account, there are 500 billion other quality games you can buy that don’t require one.

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Technically yes, but they didn’t actually require it in the beginning and they even sold it in regions without PSN.

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4 points

Could be people who already have the PSN account. Linking it was never the problem. I don’t want the account

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It was also perfectly clear the first time, the CEO of Arrowhead chose to not make the information as readily available as HE should have. Sonys always had the same stance, but one CEO decided to try and stick it to them, and unfortunately, it worked, but they likely won’t get more work.

He chose to turn the requirement off to fix a glitch on their system. It was a requirement, it was listed, Arrowhead is wholefully to blame

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Who gives a shit. Arrowhead made a good game. Fuck Sony. No one wants your dumbass PSN account.

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They also willfully broke their contract obligations, the game was only made because of the investment by Sony as well. So they took their money and gave them the middle finger and got their fan bases to bash Sony when it was their doing. But sure make fun of an account I guess?

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49 points

One thing that immensely frustrates me about this is we don’t get this reaction from Ubisoft where an account is required to play pretty much all their games. Nor Activision with Call of Duty.

It’s not great that Sony is doing this, but at the same time the horse has already left the barn and people are just jumping on the rage bandwagon.

I’m not saying don’t be mad at Sony, but can we get this outrage at the other companies too?

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23 points

This is a single player game that wants me to log in. I won’t buy something like that, irrespective of what company it’s from.

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7 points

Fair, that’s why I don’t buy anything Ubisoft like Assassin’s Creed.

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13 points

Those are multiplayer games. Totally different.

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13 points

People had the same reaction, but it was long enough ago to be forgotten old news.

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8 points

But this implies same people are also buying those games. Which they might not even be into.

GTA, cod and ubisoft games are polarising.

But there’s a massive crowd who likes single player games. Especially ones that are meant to be good.

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6 points

Call of Duty uses it for crossplay. Totally different.

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3 points

Because thats already status quo

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Not only do you need an account with those other publishers, but you often need an entirely separate launcher.

This Sony thing is simply creating an account.

This is all just console wars bullshit. It’s stupid when it was Nintendo vs. Sega. It’s stupid when it’s Sony vs. Microsoft. And it’s stupid when it’s PC vs Console.

Grow the fuck up, you emotionally-stunted fucking manchildren.

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8 points

You really should change your instance with that attitude. Doesnt reflect the domain at all :p

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4 points

It’s not because “it could be worse” that it shouldn’t be better. There’s no good reason to force players to sign into a dedicated account to play a singleplayer game. It’s not because other publishers are worse that this isn’t a gaming sin. Pointing the finger to less green pastures only gives the current one a chance to match the landscape.

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Ok, cool.

Let’s revisit this when Rockstar gets universal adoration for GTA6, which will absolutely require a Rockstar account & launcher.

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But asmondgold doesn’t have to! Why should I?!

/s

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So that’s who that tool is that’s trying to convince me I need to hate another game every time I rot my brain on TikTok.

I don’t know how many times I’ve told that app I’m not interested in how much he hates Star Wars Outlaws.

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29 points

I mean at some point gamers need to vote with their money if Sony keeps ignoring common sense requests.

Your shiti data mining for 70 bucks product is disgusting, corpo creeps need to get a reality check.

Deny the parasite profit folks!

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