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Every game stream platform has been a failure. I have no idea why they think this will be any different. Is this where the raised prices and blocking account sharing money has gone?

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As someone who likes to preserve games, this is just another form of gatekeeping. They get to hold onto all the games and once the platform decides a certain game isn’t worth keeping around, there it goes and good luck seeing it again if someone like me hasn’t backed up a copy. So many games locked to the PS3 that will never see a resurgence. I struggle to see a situation where Netflix’s service will be any different.

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Oh, because Google Stadia was such a roaring success, I’m sure that Netflix will totally not turn that into a sinking ship either.

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Stadia was really good. I’d prefer to pay a bit more to avoid the vendor lock-in and have some portability, but what they offered was fairly priced.

In fact the only reason I stopped using Stadia - or any cloud gaming for that matter - is that I like to build and have my own machine and was fortunate to be able to afford one.

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5 points

Anyone remember OnLive?

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Stadia was amazing, google couldn’t fucking wrap their head around the fact they needed to package it with other things. Why I. The flying fuck they didn’t have a storage + stadia + YouTube + music plan k have NO fucking idea but if they did it would have been a roaring success

Anyone that used it can tell you the service was immaculate - they just would never stick to a fucking plan or properly advertise it.

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Google doesn’t understand products that don’t ‘change the world’. There are no decent successes to them, there’s YouTube, then there’s Google play music, even though the second is good it doesn’t get widespread acclaim so it’s garbage to them.

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YouTube music is amazing - if it had mir podcasts, it would be my goto player for everything. I can get real weird music on YT music I can find anywhere else

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Stadia failed because of their business model. Xbox cloud gaming is working fine. If Netflix can offer a good catalog at no additional cost, it will become mainstream in no time.

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it will become mainstream in no time.

And that’s when they’ll raise prices.

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Exactly. Just like XCG.

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IIRC, you had to buy the games to play them. A subscription service would work much better

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That was the perfect thing about stadia - there was no subscription needed. You bought the game. You could play the game. That was it. No need to have monthly fees, you just got to play the games you owned.

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Didn’t you need to pay a sub to access Stadia & purchase the game on top of that? Or was that just for a more premium tier of Stadia.

Like buying expansions to WoW, pay for the expansions & pay the sub to play the game.

The cyberpunk fiasco was a perfect time to have pushed it, too bad they didn’t try to ride the waves of being the best place to play one of the most anticipated games of the decade (I know it was a disastrous launch, but the hype leading up to it for years was on a whole other dimension).

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Which doesn’t make any sense whatsoever for a cloud gaming platform.

If you don’t own the hardware the game is stored in, you don’t own the game. Which was shown when they closed stadia down and everyone lost all of their games.

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If. And this is the biggest if in history. But if Netflix and other streaming sites had the bandwidth and computing power to take on Nvidia.

Fuck. Just new era of Gaming. If you could stream games to Netflix Disney apple whatever. Play games on tvs everywhere. That would be an enormous change. I doubt it would happen as Nvidia is still struggling to get games on its service as devs just refuse.

But hopefully with a shake up we the consumers can finally get a bit of price parity.

Stop locking games behind consoles or overpriced gaming rigs. Far more competition in the gaming world would be epic.

Plus you could rock up anywhere with a controller in hand. Sign in and play to your hearts content.

Bandwidth restrictions may be enforced

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What’s in it for the developers?

It works for the streaming tv because they pay for the content but as far as I understand it with the games they want to just give you a cut rather than a straight purchase price.

If they just buy some 10,000 licences off me for X amount of money that would be fine. But when they’re like, oh you’ll get 70% of the profit your game makes at $0.30 per hour of play, developers are less interested.

It’s not the technology, it’s the deals.

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Similar system for GeForce now. You buy game and subscribe to GeForce. Both get in on the deal. It’s not cheaper but it’s convenient.

Maybe if Netflix did a deal to cut game prices to $25 bucks.

You are right that devs would never go for current Netflix platform. Netflix wins and devs lose.

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The problem is we’ve already kinda seen what that brings to the industry through mobile gaming, and it’s been universally terribly not just for mobile but for the entire gaming industry.

I dunno, maybe this would be different, but to me it is just another test-bed of innovating new ways to dick down the consumers that will eventually spread to the rest of the world again.

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Probably

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The technical challenges are real and there’s definitely some time before it goes mainstream, but it seems almost inevitable for this to be the future of gaming.

Streaming movies was once thought unrealistic. Subscription music used to be a fringe product. Even online gaming through consoles/PCs has gone through tremendous change.

Like all the other streaming products, the creators are the ones positioned to get the short end of the stick. Hopefully that can be avoided.

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Oh I don’t know about that. Money will stop innovation. It always does. Microsoft and Sony don’t want their cash ciw being split up.

If they stop companies from locking it. That would be barely something

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Money is the key and I agree it will take some massive disruption to overcome the current state… But just because someone holds the cash now, doesn’t mean they always will. History teaches that lesson over and over again, especially with new technology.

Uber vs taxi monopolies. Netflix vs Blockbuster. Apple vs BlackBerry.

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