Looks like we upset a few too many lemmy.ca. I didn’t see a post about this on here, so I thought I’d go ahead and make one.

2 of 4 reasons why are basically just PPB lol, and a third is for calling for executions of landlords

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that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime

Translation; “I don’t know how to counter these arguments, so I’ll just assume its propaganda and move on”

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Sounds like some sort of unfalsifiable orthodoxy to me…

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a liberal’s thought process consists of inventing a conclusion and selectively interpreting evidence

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💛

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CNN told me China bad, don’t need any more information then that

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Arguments I agree with = well-thought-out

Arguments I disagree with = Chinese propaganda

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“Whew, those dastardly communists almost had me there with that instructive and enlightening argument. Thankfully my hegemonic capitalist programming FACTS AND LOGIC kicked in and I rejected their arguments immediately without further thought.”

How do they not realize what an incredible self-own that shit is lmao

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that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime

Holeeeeeeeee shit.

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Your honor, the evidence that I’m guilty sounds well founded only if you disregard the fact that I’m not guilty.

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You might as well stick your fingers in your ears and start drooling

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the ball flew so far over their head that it left near earth orbit.

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they did the thing

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while the other half parrots more Chinese propaganda (that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime).

Under liberalism, there are no good or bad actions, only good and bad teams

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half of them replies with huge and ugly emojis

Our emojis may be huge due to the lemmy bug (I’ve been trying to refrain posting some outside of the instance due to that), but ugly ?!

How dare them, we have the best emojis

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They mean ppb

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Me: Mom I want expertise on China.

Mom: We’ve already got a China expert at home.

The China expert at home:

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50% of posts are well-written arguments? Not a bad ratio, frankly. Good posts, guys.

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Like all leftists we’re pathetically vulnerable to engaging in lively debate about economics.

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This really needs to be a site tagline.

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TLDR: if you want to know if an instance will defed hexbear, check its instance block list for lemmygrad.

been making stray comments here and there about this, I’m telling y’all if an instance defeds lemmygrad it is 1000% going to defed hexbear, we’re calmer and more solitary than y’all, so all the accusations of trolling or brigading or just generally being “ebil tankies” against the grad can and will be used against hexbear too. I fully expect .world to defed lemmygrad in the next couple months too once they’re finally got their shit under control. Is what it is, hopefully normal users still manage to find us and switch to instances that aren’t ran by anticommunists.

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This. I was surprised to find that they were even federated with hexbear. Lemmy.ca was on my shortlist of instances to join when I was moving to Lemmy. Blocking lemmygrad was reason enough to find a different instance.

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I feel like we sometimes overstate the we are calmer/polite/respectful part. There was a hexbear user telling another hexbear user that our emojis in federated communities were a little disruptive (because they are really big) and they apologized, but another user replied to them with a ppb lol

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another user replied to them with a ppb lol

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They’re from lemmygrad and saying that lemmygrad is the calmer one, from my reading. Also, lemmygrad added pronouns? Based

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nah, some people just started adding them after interacting with us

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Oh yeah, my bad, when I see pronouns I think it’s a hexbear user.

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I meant lemmygrad users are calmer than hexbear users lol

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I do see that lemmygrad is more aligned to some ML types, while hexbear is a bit wider, which does make for a difference. But it doesn’t seem the strain of communism is the main problem for the de-federating people.

However we have a more diverse set of opinions in our user base, since we don’t ban people that quick (i.e. in terms of war in Russia we have some revolutionary defeatists, some anti imperialists who favour a weakening of the imperialist NATO (which really irks other instance admins, etc.).

To moderate a sub sub sub comment of a main thread is a bit funny though.

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When I saw that thread last night, I was expecting the links to the “offenses” to be wild. But then it was just bathroom humor, and a singular call to execute landlords, which I found hilarious.

I just do not understand the lack of humor of a lot of people, on these instances. You’d swear their lives are devoid of happiness.

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A lot of those are pretexts for defederating I think

What rubs them the wrong way is our position on various issues (despite them being far more deeply argued and sourced than the paltry answers we usually get)

Also, admittedly and to a lesser degree, likely the fact we’re numerous and terminally online so anytime something dunkable is posted even the small subset of online hexbear users that see it appear on their feed and interact must look like an army to them

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They defederated us for being perfect posters

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We did everything right and they defederated us, folks

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Guilty. I will happily reply to every single comment in a thread without even really thinking about it. People think I’m stalking them and it’s like “nah, I’ve just made twenty comments in every single post that was posted today, that’s all”.

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people dont do this?

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it’s a poster’s duty

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Guaranteed most of them have some interesting opinions on the indigenous people of Canada and how they ended up in their current situation.

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Most of them are starlight tourguides.

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Step 1: Execute landlords

Step 2: Land doesn’t actually get properly distributed and a new landlord rises

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit?

(Step 5: Revolution all over again)

Edit: /s in case it’s not clear. sigh Poe’s Law sucks 🤦‍♂️

Uhh excuse me I’m sorry what was step 2 again??

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they also purposefully obscure and ignore the distinction between personal property (held for use) and private property (held for profit)

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The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.

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Calls China an Oppressive Regime

Based in country that swore fealty to a pedophile enabling racist royal family which leeches off the people of the UK and imprisons people standing against monarchy.

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The UK complaining about China is really rich given the way their courts work, their actual literal king and unelected house of parliament, ASBOs, and the UK being far and away the most exhaustively surveilled country in the world.

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Don’t forget the pogroms and genocide against the Natives

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The whole point is that whoever you’re replying to has descended in to silly chud shit and there’s no longer any point engaging with their “ideas”, but apparently our refined linguistic achievements are too complex.

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O Canada my home and is native land

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