Humans who run instances are real people who have jobs and mortgages and kids. I also like having piracy communities around to balance the greedy ass corporations trying to control media and copyright…I’m glad to know they are there if I need them or feel like screwing around with it. I just wonder if the people ranting all indignantly acting like instances are competing for their usership would feel the same if the most active instance was on a server physically sitting in their basement, or paid for by money tied to them in the real world. Yes it seems pretty unlikely that you’re ever going to run into issues with law enforcement, copyright claims, lawsuits…but how much would you risk for a fucking hobby you do for free? Would you risk your house? Your job? I would not. Grow up. No one cares what instance you use.
Curious to see how this thread will go, as it seems this opinion is indeed unpopular.
I agree with you 100%
A few points I’ve noted in the previous threads
- people confuse defederation and community blocking (in this case, it’s the latter)
- people assume that Lemmy.world is hosted in the US while it’s EU based
- people just feel like they need to announce they are leaving while this is not Reddit, most of the users open an alt and move on with their lives.
Absolutely, literally just swap instances. Hopefully instance migration comes in a similar way that mastodon offers.
I’m just grateful to see that just when folks were beginning to doubt if Lemmy could actually serve as a Reddit alternative, we’ve been able to prove that we’re equally if not more adept at insular slapfighting over petty bullshit and assuming the worst about others’ intentions.
Yes, the “everyone is nice, everyone is happy” days are over, at least for the coming days.
I guess that means we reached a large enough userbase
It means there is now a healthy spectrum of feelings. Nice and happy all the time isn’t healthy.
I’m pretty sure someone was being a dickbag to me like, the day I joined, so it was basically a seamless transition from reddit. Though honestly, the last time I was on any kind of public site without anyone being a shit was when I moderated a forum a decade ago, at least up until we passed maybe 200 users. I’m pretty sure that’s about the limit before someone has to act up.
Lemmy ultimately can’t serve as a reddit replacement, but not because of the people. It’s the technology that won’t scale. If we took all the slapfighting that reddit had to offer, every instance would crumble trying to replicate a million snide and argumentative comments.
I’m still consistently surprised that so few people seem to have realized that you can just make an alt on another instance that federates with blahaj (or the instance itself) if you feel like it.
And as to the server owner: they’re doing this with donations and out of the goodness of their hearts. That kinda gives them the right to run their server as they see fit. If you don’t like it… either find another instance, make your own, or shut the fuck up.
Not super user friendly to have to be constantly switching instances if an admin does something you don’t like, but totally agree that these are just the trade-offs that are made when you choose to use a free and open source software
But like, it’s a fundamental characteristic of the fediverse.
This place isn’t for everyone. If someone can’t eventually wrap their head around the concept of separate instances with distinct and sometimes drastically different administrative standards, and that alts are a reasonable and correct solution to (de)federation/network fragmentation… well, this probably isn’t the right place for that person.
And that’s the attitude that makes sure this platform never grows.
The reality is that most people don’t want to manage multiple accounts or even know what instance they’re on. That kind of stuff only matters to tech people. The average user wants one account that does everything, not a bunch of seemingly identical accounts.
I’m still not sold on the fediverse anyways. Federation often seems to hold things back more than it helps tbh.
Not to mention it’s not like Reddit where they’re doomed to their fate. The fedi is literally designed to get around this. That’s the whole point! Swapping instances is absolutely free. Though it is a bit of a pain without official migration tools so hopefully that gets fixed soon.
Though it is a bit of a pain
Almost painless using https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim (showing the link for potential readers, I think I remember sharing it to you a while back)
Yeah but the point is that it should be like Mastodon where it’s built in. Or at least with Lemmy, it’d be more appropriate just to be able to import/export your subscribe list, blocks, and settings.
I guess everyone would like this built in, as well as instance blocking and moderation tools.
Those are the three big topics to be addressed, and I assume they require quite a lot of work from the devs and the rest of the contributors.
Glad we have that tool 👍 but it’s not a full migration to my knowledge. I don’t think your post history migrates with you, for example. Just one ramification of that is if someone replies to an old post of yours, you won’t know on your new instance.
Also folks that have established communities on an instance (shameless plug for !streetwear@lemmy.world) can’t uproot and move it to another instance (yet).
Glad we have that tool 👍 but it’s not a full migration to my knowledge. I don’t think your post history migrates with you, for example. Just one ramification of that is if someone replies to an old post of yours, you won’t know on your new instance.
Indeed, but I’m not sure even Mastodon offers that feature. I’m in that case quite often as I have a lot of alts. It’s okay for now, I don’t usually change accounts that often, and when I do, I have a one-week timeframe when I change the previous account as well.
The community moving is another issue, but for that one to happen would be really though. Quite easy to abuse, because attackers could just create fake communities with thousands of GBs of pictures and just dump those on targeted instances. It’s easier to monitor normal content creation, and even limit the creation of communities as some instances already do.
Also folks that have established communities on an instance (shameless plug for !streetwear@lemmy.world) can’t uproot and move it to another instance (yet).
You can moderate cross-instance as far as I’m aware. I agree that communities should be able to move as well, but from what I’ve seen from previous attempts by other communities .world admins will just find new mods and reopen the existing community.
I agree with your unpopular opinion but also think the people should feel free to bitch if they want to. I’m just happy to be here not giving dollars to Reddit.
I’d just rather them have an actual point than just complaints .Like how in their understanding are the instance runners in the clear when it comes to copyright laws. Like an actual point. Or how are they going to help the instance if there were to be legal trouble.
Everyone vocal on “your side” seem to have really limited world view and generally just bad attitude. No one seems to be willing to even explain the logic behind why this is wrong or at least show some understanding of the problem.
Edit. And by “you” I don’t mean pirates, do what you want, but the people complaining about an instance protecting themselves from possible legal trouble.
