I was just casually talking with my mostly white, white collar coworkers about drug legalization. I made an offhand joke about how nearly all my old school friends dealt drugs, mostly just weed, at one point or another to make ends meet.

Shocked silence. Mumbles. That weird pursed lip thing that white, white collar types do.

Luv 2 not be able to make friends at work because of a fundamental disconnect between our formative experiences. Luv 2 probably have just hurt organizing efforts because I spooked the people I’m trying to organize :deeper-sadness:

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Yeah, being constantly around white collar professionals really made me so acutely aware of all these critiques of the emptiness of suburbia. But in terms of relating to them, it essentially boiled down, “oh these people are very easy to relate to if I just assume life revolves trying out new restaurants and escape rooms and politics is just entertainment where I feel inspired by Butigeig or horrified at the Orange Man’s rudeness”. It might be that I am less threatening since I am a very nerdy white guy, but I also get weirded out by the opposite reaction, where stories of getting in brawls with meth heads and dealing with family members being busted for drug possession are treated with a strange fascination.

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I also get weirded out by the opposite reaction, where stories of getting in brawls with meth heads and dealing with family members being busted for drug possession are treated with a strange fascination.

I’ve only seen this reaction a few times, mostly vicariously. Like one time me and a couple friends were laughing about the times when dates had turned into drug deals, and the then-partner of one my friends insisted we tell them “more crazy stories.” Flattering, in a way, but also :what-the-hell:

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I also get weirded out by the opposite reaction, where stories of getting in brawls with meth heads and dealing with family members being busted for drug possession are treated with a strange fascination.

is that some zoo animal type reaction or…? I love hearing shit like that but I’m also the type who isn’t made uncomfortable by this

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Yeah, it is kind of hard to explain but just a fascination by the stories and bringing them up again that just comes off as weird, also simultaneous mixed with judgy undertones for the latter type of stories.

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99% chance that every single person there smokes regularly

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Coffee, beer, like it’s so easy to point out how dumb and arbitrary drug laws are.

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Maybe, but they’re the demand side of the equation. They don’t like to associate with the supply side.

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That’s an incisive way of framing the sickness inherent in capitalism.

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Unlikely. I’ve worked in places like OP is describing. I was in one when my state happened to legalize weed, and all of the Boomers were appalled, including the ones who was notorious for being a huge drunk boater party guys. Weed is still kinda taboo for people over 45 or so. My parents smoked when they were younger and are still not fans.

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Weed is still kinda taboo for people over 45 or so. We know different boomers lol

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Time to go full macchiavelli. You met a black person once. You are the scaryiest person they know. Dominate them. They might not love you but they will fear and respect you.

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That’s right you goddamn quakers. I was just talking on the phone to my family in a language THAT ISN’T ENGLISH. :sicko-blur:

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Latin, Yiddish or Hebrew, right? Maybe even French or German?

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the middle class is inherently reactionary

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The dipshits in the upper class can’t even comprehend this and keep pushing the middle class into the lower class.

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because they’ve advanced the ability for the police to control people so much that they don’t need a large reactionary middle class to keep their rule stable.

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Well that and the fact that unlimited economic expansion is running up against ecological limits. Faced with the choice between ceasing extraction and extracting from their middle class “allies”, the billionaires are choosing the latter.

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