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Probably a lot of stupid communists

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That’s pretty much every terminally online space.

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You’re repeating yourself

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I’d prefer if Lemmy was a safe haven from politics and ideologies but people just can’t help themselves…

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That’s essentially impossible

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Not with such posts and attitude!

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The sad fact is you can’t really escape politics and ideology since they literally permeate everything. The closest thing you can do is make something as appealing to mainstream audiences and thus as close to the stuff most people agree with, but… Liking the status quo is still a political statement at the end of the day.

Let’s say you’re talking about a character in a movie who always goes out of their way to help people. That would be palatable to most, it’s a very widespread worldview and value. But even then, a segment of people believe that you shouldn’t help people if it doesn’t get you anything (What’s in it for me? Sort of mentality).

In that situation, the person claiming you shouldn’t help people for free would rightfully be labeled an asshole, but the point still is that even something as benign as that makes a statement in a conflict between an altruistic ideology (It’s good to help people!) Vs an egoistic ideology (I need to get something for my effort)

This is obviously a very simplified version of how deep politics and philosophy affect all interactions, but I hope I managed to get my point across!

Have a nice day, stranger!

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Authleft

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I think it’s not as left leaning as Reddit. I see a lot of disagreement with leftist ideas, more liberal or libertarian ideals are what I see the most. It’s been refreshing to see the diversity, Reddit was an echo chamber of pure leftist values and that’s not an accurate cross section of discourse and range of ideas.

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I didn’t think Reddit was (or is) quite aels echoey as that. Lots of left wing views (or what passes for left wing in the States anyway) but plenty of people arguing against it in my experience.

Mostly though ,it was just a very silly place. And all the better for it.

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I’m sure that my perspective is a little influenced by the specific subreddits and communities I read, but overall Reddit still had an extreme auth left tone, whereas six years ago it was still primarily libleft, with a lot of classic liberal ideals.

This has also mirrored larger cultural shifts in English speaking countries.

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Any compas with only two axes is so flawed as to be actively harmful to discourse.

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I’m afraid I’m only familiar with the 2-axis political compass: Left/Right and Auth/Lib.

How many axes do you think there should be in an effective political chart, and what aspects of a political position should each one represent?

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To be robust, it needs a social axis distinct from the heirarcy / authority axis, a political status-quo-vs-reform axis, and a dedicated economic policy axis. So, at least four.

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Do you know of a test that has these axes, or more? I would be very interested to take it if so, and I am inclined to agree with you about the political compass test and others like it - they dont capture the true complexity of most people’s political views - I’m all over the place myself

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Except an actual compas, of course. They really don’t need a third axis in most cases.

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But I’m not commenting on the validity of it

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But I am, and I’m saying that thinking in these terms is actively harmful.

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Still better than having just one though

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