Today’s proposal to digitalise passports and identity cards paves the way for a more seamless and secure travel experience,” Věra Jourová, the Commission’s Vice-President for values and transparency, said in a statement.

we know what happens when someone says the word “secure” … ahhhaaam…

remember, someone a person or a government or a cyber terrorist group will track these border checks…

and the app itself won’t be so transparent as your Lemmy client, I think I’ll stick to paper passport

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Government backdoors are super secure and they’re totally the only ones who can access guys we swear!

definitely wont have an always online requirement that will fuck you over in a busy place like say, an airport, either

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Aren’t there already records of all your border crossings? I don’t see the difference, what am I missing?

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There are. There isn’t any difference. It’s like people being afraid of facial recognition for border checks. It’s creepy at first, but governments already have pictures of everyone’s faces from their ID’s. They don’t gain anything from the additional photo except efficiency to speed up a process that’s already in place.

Edit: I will say that I would never want a government app directly linking my ID to my phone unless I could be absolutely sure it wasn’t doing anything creepy in the background. I wish sandboxing apps was a default feature for all smartphones.

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There are, but I’m not linked to some sort of an application that will ( it’s not a matter of if ) be exploited by a malicious third party or even the first party ( the government ), good luck hacking my paper passport

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This is bad idea. Phones are locked down and centrally controlled, even if the app is going to be FOSS and actually secure.

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The current eID system could be used.

Someone that wants to check your password shows you a QR code from the government all and you use the eID to scan and authorize.

The person that shows you the code will then be able to access the information they are permitted to see. Border guard gets a digital ID for example.

Hell this could even work for buying alcohol. Store profile > Check if of legal drinking age. The only thing the person gets back is a green checkmark or a red cross.

The access to your profile is logged to your profile with Date, time, who accessed it, why they accessed it and what access profile they had.

This makes sure it is transparent and that you as a user have control over when it is accessible.

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It was nice to hear it’s voluntary. You can have conventional backup if you like.

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Good God why do people think this is ever a good idea? I’ll keep my paper passport thank you

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until it doesn’t exist anymore

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A valid reason to hand over my unlocked phone? No thanks.

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As long as the UK one is blue.

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I’m a Canadian immigrant to the UK, from December 1st this year, all Residency proof documents are formed forced digital. As I’m Canadian I can just scan my passport and get in, no visa required. If border control pulls me aside and demands my proof of residency, and I can’t access the internet, I may be stuck in a small room for hours or days, or ejected from the country. So that’s gonna be fun.

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If border control pulls me aside and demands my proof of residency, and I can’t access the internet, I may be stuck in a small room for hours or days,

How likely are you to not be able to access the internet at a UK border you might be traveling through? Seriously.

Also, have you heard of a download for offline usage?

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How likely are you to not be able to access the internet at a UK border you might be traveling through? Seriously.

There’s been quite a few times where I’ve not been able to access the internet through my phone at major airports in the UK. Heathrow, Luton, Glasgow. I didn’t have an active UK SIM I wasn’t able to get net connection through the WiFi as they were overloaded/having issues. This is not uncommon.

Also, have you heard of a download for offline usage?

See, it’s not a multi-use thing, it’s not like a membership card or a boarding pass or a credit card. It’s a code that’s generated by logging into the .gov site, and is only valid for a single use, and a limited time.

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