More than $200 billion may have been stolen from two large COVID-19 relief initiatives. That’s according to new estimates from a federal watchdog investigating federally funded programs designed to help small businesses survive the worst public health crisis in more than a hundred years.

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A lot from senators. But I know quite a few small business owners that suddenly had new homes and still let people go… sad

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I don’t think they’re even counting those guys - “rich people with legitimate businesses who didn’t actually need the money” - as fraud; this mostly seems to be a lot of fake / foreign businesses.

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That and that fact that they wrote the bill in such a way that McDonalds was considered a small buisness means actual small businesses got very little

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To be fair, McDucks is mostly franchises with fewer than 20 employees. Corporate is mostly just the supply infrastructure and licensing.

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And land.

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LOL what?? That’s insane

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I mean but it isn’t. Its weird but if you are at least semi familiar with the concept of a feudalism its a closeish example. Every franchise owner who basically pay MickyDs to use the branding as long as they pay a cut to the corporate (the King/emperor of the MickyD’s kingdom) and all these franchisee are just their own counts/countesses of their own demesne with orders coming from the king and them paying a tax to the king, meaning they all are just small businesses (as weird as that sounds) using the branding of Mcdonalds and popularity of it to drag in customers. This is also ignoring the fact that many of these fast food shops were able to stay open with very minor interruption with their workflow besides closing down their main dining rooms and that is the far larger problem at hand. Why should a company who may be slightly affected by these lockdowns be paid for still being able to operate if not making even more money than prior.

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I like your analogy.

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This was by the criminal Trump administration’s design.

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No it was not - it was done too fast with too little oversight and lots of trust in the good nature of the people.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/podcasts/the-daily/pandemic-fraud.html

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Trusting human nature was the first mistake.

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Trump removes inspector general overseeing $2 trillion coronavirus relief package days after he was appointed: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-relief-trump-removes-inspector-general-overseeing-2-trillion-package.html

Inspectors general warn that Trump administration is blocking scrutiny of coronavirus rescue programs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/15/inspector-general-oversight-mnuchin-cares-act/

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No, no, no! You don’t understand!! It was done too fast with too little oversight and lots of trust in the good nature of the people!!!

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It’s making the vein in my forehead pulse trying to reconcile the terms “Trump” and “trust and good nature”.

These are COVID-EIDL and PPP “loans”, which were forgiven if you didn’t fire anyone. EIDL had $15,000 worth of advances which didn’t need to be repaid if you claimed you were in a low income area.

SBA’s funding was cut by Bush Jr. in 2001.. Obama tried to boost it in 2010.

A lot of that funding was diverted from their staff so there was no infrastructure to vett the recipients claims.

That’s a borderline smoking gun for me.

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This response is mistaken. See icydefiance comment.

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“Little oversight” can be a design choice.

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Too little oversight you say?

Remember that time when Dems would only vote to pass this with the condition of oversight? We even had someone ready to do the oversight!

And then Trump fired them, oops definitely not intentional

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I remember the debate for oversight in 2020. Democrats wanted money to go to an agency with accountability. Republicans did not.

time.com/5823510/coronavirus-stimulus-oversight/

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Wow. That is such an insane number.

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