All you car haters, I’d like to see you sitting outside, having a coffee, in Arizona during the summer where it is 56°C during most hours on a daily basis.
The picture on the bottom is from France. I bet they would still drink their coffee in +56 because they sit like that during winter under a bloody snowstorm.
Apparently you can dress up for “fuck you” heat.
I respect base 10/metric, base 12/imperial is braindead, and think the US has a lower than average self awareness and introspection.
Metric (aka normal) is a worldwide standard. Inches and feet are not (really). Celsius is Kevin with an offset, which is why it makes more sense.
The car ofc 😂. Air conditioned, my own music, private space, no waiting for a table, no listening to other conversations. But this is a stupid comparison altogether. I wouldn’t go to the drive thru for a social coffee and I wouldn’t go to the cafe for a quick coffee.
I think most of the people here probably haven’t. I myself have only been once.
The issue with this comparison is the cultural differences. Like in America that bottom image would be basically impossible to get in and out of on the way to work. Whereas Starbs or Dunkin is like a 5 minute pit stop tops
Again, wrong. In Italy or France it’s perfectly normal to pop into a cafe for a quick coffee on the way to work.
Wat? The first one. The idea of going into a crowded Cafe is uhhhhhhh. People directly next to you and babies blah blah blah
💯 Yeah, I get to sit in my own comfy chair, with ac, my own music or silence, without people coughing on me, with my doors locked if I feel like it.
That type of busyness in either picture is exceptional. If I get into a car to get somewhere, it’s almost always easier AND FASTER to just stay in it.
Do I think it would be better if they were all electric? Yes.
Is coffee bad for the environment? At every step, yes.
Do I like well made espresso? Yes.
Do I want to go anywhere for a cup of coffee? No.
Do I have the equipment to make good espresso at home? No.
Do I think going without is the best form of being better for the environment? In many cases, yes.
Will I still go somewhere for a chance at a great cup of espresso? Maybe once every other month.
What is the goal of FuckCars and this sort of perspective? Seems like it should be sustainability and quality of life.
Do I think cars are the enemy? No.
Do I wish I didn’t have to deal with them? Yes.
Are there any 100% sustainable, more efficient, better quality of life suggestions that are feasible out there? Not yet.
Do I think FuckCars is a whine? Generally, yes.
Do I think it’s an important debate to keep open? One of the most important.
Why do I criticize it? Because it never addresses the complexity of the problem or produces any feasible solutions or steps to take. It’s a cope with blanket implicit blame. We all want better.
It’s just one more block! Lol anywhere with a walkable city would have at least 2 coffee shops per km for this exact reason.
Why yes I would rather sit in my comfy padded chair in the AC where I can listen to my own music and charge my cell phone rather than sitting on a metal chair listening to 20 other people’s conversations in 100 degree weather.
There are many arguments against drive-thru restaurants. This is a stupid ass one.
The quality of my car seats and its various other comforts vastly exceeds the quality and convenience of most restaurants, because it can drive me to anywhere the roads lead to and it doesn’t have all those other stinky people in it.
Yeah I’m going with option #1 but only if I didn’t already bring my own coffee from home, which I’d normally do because it’s better and cheaper than what the restaurant has too.
