18 points

Nah this ain’t true. Under political accomplishments it should include “amazing Russian asset”

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Having dinner in the same room with papa poopin (and everyone’s favorite qanon and traitor, Michael Flynn) and not setting off a Geiger counter is definitely an achievement.

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Nothing to see here. Just a quick meet and greet with a traitor and a murderous dictator.

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4 points

Not good for Flynn.

If you’ve ever been to a wedding then you know just how much Stein and Putin talked.

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“Hardest job in the world”?

please 🙄

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6 points

Hardest job to actually do well?

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Define “well”

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4 points

dig a hole until you hit water

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Every US presidential or congressional candidate need to hire interns to open up all the checks from aipac, for starters. And then they need to hire someone to watch those interns. And a full time nurse to treat paper cuts. Pretty soon its a staff of hundreds of people. These candidates arent going to ‘bribe themselves’ you know. This is big business.

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I would’ve gone with “most important job in the nation,” personally.

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That implies that youcan expect the US president to be able to do a good job. I’ve yet to hear from a president who actually did du a good job.

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0 points

Maybe because it’s a hard job

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Have you seen how much a president ages over four years? It may not be a hard job, but it sure as hell isn’t easy. Unless you’re Trump and you don’t do shit.

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For political accomplishments, she did managed to get invited to meeting with putin. You can’t be just anybody. You have to give it to her.

As for the qualifications, trump showed us that you can do it at your own leisure, nobody will fire you if you won’t do it.

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Stein has arranged a lot of good climate protests. Never held office though, as far as I can find.

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She got elected to a town council in Lexington Massachusetts. A whopping 539 votes. The only successful campaign she’s run.

How you go from that and 5 other failed election bids straight to running for President is not something I know- oh wait, I do. If someone puts you up to it.

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Depends on how you define success. She seems to do very financially well on running in national elections every four years.

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Gonna need a source on that.

Because Its interesting her campaign doesn’t mention it

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It’s on her wikipedia page..

Probably doesn’t talk about it because it’s such a tiny irrelevant accomplishment to the position of President, that it means nothing.

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Protest that accomplished what exactly? Oh yeah absolute fuckall lol.

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It’s nonsense to assume that every vote for Stein in 2016 would have voted for Clinton. Most exit polls showed that people who voted for Stein or Johnson would not have voted in the first place. Hillary was a losing candidate from the start.

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This tbh, if we don’t want Green votes, make better reasons to them to vote the way you want them to vote. They vote green because they don’t agree with the other candidates. They should fix that instead of complaining about it.

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4 points

Somehow “not facism” isn’t enough for some people

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The first time I voted, I cast it for our green party, not because I wanted them to win, but because I knew they wouldn’t win and my vote would have no effect on the outcome. I haven’t been paying much attention to politics at that point in time so I didn’t have an opinion on who should win. I just wanted to vote to understand how the process works.

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Nobody ever claimed “everybody”, just the “enough”, and the data actually reflects that. Even if they didn’t vote, Clinton would’ve won.

I voted for Stein for 2016 (before we knew what we know now), and I voted for Howie Hawkins in 2020. But then I lived in New York, and I knew my vote wouldn’t matter, so I could vote my conscience without threatening the concept of democracy. This year I am in Florida, and I damn well fucking know I’m gonna vote for Kamala Harris and a straight democratic ticket below that. Because I understand the consequences of my actions.

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14 points

Let us salute this brave soul who has moved to Florida.

God speed.

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Sure and maybe by not voting these people could’ve said “I wasn’t foolish, I was just lazy!”

But unfortunately for them, Jill Stein was on the ballot and they foolishly voted for her and here we are.

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Imagine supporting a political party so unappealing to a majority of the population, that you resort to blaming them when you don’t win.

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Trump was appealing enough to win. Was it that he was actually good or are a good portion of voters just fucking idiots?

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Nader is a mich better example. If 99% of the Florida Nader voters had stayed home and the remaining 1% voted for Gore, he would have won even with the Supreme Court’s decision to stop the recount.

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But then I hear so many Trump voters would have voted for Bernie. So who is the real spoiler?

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26 points

Anybody who cares about Green policy should vote against Trump.

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Logically, yeah.

But if these voters were logical they would realize the issue with FPTP voting systems and not fuck with 3rd parties in the first place.

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Good thing you don’t need to assume that every vote for Stein would have voted for Clinton… In Michigan, the number of Stein voters was ~5x the margin of victory. FIVE TIMES.

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0 points

Dems pick garbage fascist candidates. Why blame voters for that?

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And 7 times the margin of victory left the presidential spot on the ballot blank in Michigan, if stein wasn’t on the ballot they would’ve just gone there. People did not like Hillary, blame her for that not stein.

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3 points

That part. They are repeating 2016 talking points again.

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Oh ð youngins hate ðis one.

Little shitstains become allergic to maþ ð red second it requires ðem to acknowledge shit like ðis or ðat Bernie was absolutely smacked by ð popular vote boþ times.

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