The Sotheby’s auction house has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit filed by investors who regret buying Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs that sold for highly inflated prices during the NFT craze in 2021.

194 points

Nope. Too bad, they knew what they were buying. That they convinced themselves the value they attributed to it would remain or increase is entirely on them. The fact that so many others saw it through a realistic lens means they had the same ability and chose not to.

But that said, the proceeds for them should also get clawed back and 100% put toward scam identification education. Neither side in this one should walk away enriched.

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49 points

Honestly I’m ok with them keeping their money, afaik everyone knew where they were buying they were just dumb enough to think it would ever be worth something. If we want to claw back money from people we should start with the ones ruining the environment to make the line go up

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38 points

I mean yeah, if you make it illegal for dumb people to overpay for stupid shit, half the global economy would collapse overnight

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5 points

Just like Beanie Babies!

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1 point

I’m all for that. And the stock market bros too.

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12 points

That’s the whole point of legitimate auction houses like Sothby’s. They pay experts to provide some legitimacy and sanity. It’s one thing for me to say that a kids finger painting is worth 50k, it’s a different thing for a trained art appraiser at an auction house to set that price.

Sotheby sets the initial prices and provides estimates of value. They were supposed to be the responsible adult in the room. Now if they values them at say $1000 and they sold for 100,000k that’s on the buyer. If the value was set for 80k and it sold for 90k that’s a different story.

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This is the part about wealthy people that I just love. If muh investment pays off, f-off society, I was smart and made a wise investment. I deserve to keep 100% of the proceeds. But when things go south, “Save meeeeeeeeee, you [society/regulators] shouldn’t have let me go through with it”. Then we’re back to the socialism they say they hate so much and that they lobby their own money to deny to the common folk.

Oy vay

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125 points

Should’ve invested in beanie babies like the rest of the smart people.

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65 points

Nah man, pogs are where it’s at. Pogs!

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21 points

Joking aside, I miss my Pogs. Those need to come back.

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9 points

I actually looked this up recently. You can buy pog makers!

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4 points

Baby come back

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11 points

Everything’s coming up Milhouse!

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2 points

I don’t think pogs were ever expected to make anyone a millionaire. The most expensive slammer I ever saw back in the day was $20 and pog $5. My mom wouldn’t buy me that fancy $20 slammer. :(

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18 points

Back in the mid-90s I had a friend who inherited $40,000 from her grandmother and spent all of it on $75 Fossil watches, the kind that were based on old cartoons like Popeye etc. And it took her a while to do it since she would drive to malls within a few hours of her and clean out the department stores that carried them. That’s over 500 watches, a few at a time.

She was adamant that this was an excellent investment, but these are on eBay now for $50 to $60. At parties she would pull out the collection and start showing them to people (no touchy, of course) as if there was something intrinsically interesting about a cartoon Fossil watch. The sad thing is, with $40,000 in hand she probably could have bought two or three times as many from a wholesaler and maybe eventually actually have made some money.

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16 points

At least with beanie babies there was a physical object.

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103 points

The fact that they still sell for 50k is insane. It’s a shitty picture with a convoluted proof of ownership. The fuck.

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A lot of those transactions is just to up the price so dumb asses think they are worth it. The other half is just dumb asses ofc.

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15 points

It has to be some form of money laundering.

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8 points

It is, but tsss.

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1 point

Shhhhhhh don’t tell them

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8 points

I all but guarantee you that those are getting shuffled around between owners to keep the price inflated.

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2 points

Well, it’s not that convoluted, it’s basically just a hashmap.

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67 points

I hope the defendant loses, but the damages shouldn’t be awarded to the fools who bought the NFTs. That money should go to literally anyone else, because they’ve already proved they can’t be trusted with money. Fuck both sides of this dispute.

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I wish I had the temerity to sue people when an ‘investment’ doesn’t go my way.

I’m sure they’d have sued Sotheby’s if they made lots of profit right?

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There was the bit about Sotheby’s misrepresenting FTX as a buyer, but that doesn’t make me any more sympathetic to their situation. Which, now that I’ve typed that, is extremely cynical when I like to think of myself as empathetic. I’m gonna try to change my take here. I like @db2’s take that the money should be invested in public education.

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12 points

I don’t think it would have mattered had they known. FTX was still in their good graces at the time, and FTX didn’t actually scam anyone (in this particular transaction lmao).

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