And permantly disfigured even more with long COVID.
They knew what would happen. The US is wealthy with a huge military force. They could have locked down and mobilised their army to protect people until it was over.
But the oligarchs didn’t want to slow their profits and give up even an inch of their wealth and power, so COVID was allowed to run rampant. They sacrified their own people to the virus. These people did not willingly sacrifice themselves, they were killed through purposeful negelect.
They also encouraged other countries to do the same. My own country hardly had any deaths before US officials visited and pressured them to open again.
It’s no longer tracked properly so who knows the full extent of the death.
This could be one of the largest mass killings in history.
The worst part is when the news tries to spin how traumatic it was for kids to endure our pathectic excuse for a ‘lockdown’, instead of how traumatic it was to watch our countries murder millions for nothing and hear our friends and families parrot eugenics talking points to try and justify it.
EDIT: [CONTENT WARNING] There is a blue MAGA from another instance in the comments who is hand waving away peoples COVID experiences, so if you have lost a loved one to this disease or had your life or loved ones affected by it, reading the comments here might stir some trauma. Just a heads up.
I really don’t like thinking about how many people have died, having libs tell me they’re the harm reduction people just makes me angry, like what the hell have you even done
Unlike you, the paragon of empathy.
You jumped a into a discussion about the death of over 1,000,000 people on a communist instance just to throw out some lame lib “muh team bleu slightly not as bad as le ebil team red” bait take, just to pointlessly argue over people “not getting your simple (pointless) statement.”
That’s tasteless enough, that you disregard the over 1,000,000 lives that were lost in this country because of liberalism, but then you insult and trivialize the trauma of one of our users in the most callous and condescending way. And not just any of our users, but one of the best ans most loved comrades on this site.
I don’t think its possible for us to go down a dark enough path to be callous toeard the death of 1,000,000 people, and then hurl reddit nerd, logic pervert insults toward someone who experienced personal tragedy related to the mass death of over 1,000,000 people.
Here’s a little something just for you lib. Wait for it
I love getting called a tankie in an edit as you slink away, absolutely craven behavior
What the fuck do you even think my complaint is? it’s the rollback of covid precautions at a federal level, cutting the aid they were giving out, ending mask mandate.
You shitheads acted like vaccines were a magic bullet because it was a convenient lie to tell everyone try to get ‘back to normal’. Instead you abdicate responsibility and act like it’s the most anyone could done.
Fuck you and all the people like you that have condemned me to having to take care of COVID patients forever. Plenty of my patients have had the vaccine and gotten COVID still, several of them died or were so damaged afterwards that they couldn’t go back to a remotely similar living situation. I work with the vulnerable populations and just saying it’s up to vaccines is a fucking joke. Harm reduction would be doing a proper lockdown and eradicating COVID, letting it rip over populations and turning the vaccine into an individualist choice is no different than what the red team would do.
If there’s a sucking chest wound, do I just cover it with some petroleum gauze and call it a day, or do I go to the fucking hospital to get it properly healed? The vaccine is part of the treatment process but not the goddamn solution.
Biden and his could have done MANY things. They could have threatened to lift federal funding over misinformation being spread by conservatives, they could have continued masking mandates, they could have done a litany of things that would have actually been meaningful.
Doing the barest minimum is not something worthy of support, and willfully misinterpreting people’s anger at liberals’ failure to do better then that is disingenuous at best.
oh good it’s a lemmy liberal
the only way to handle covid was how china handled it, joe biden didn’t do dick differently than Trump (except hit the “covid is over” button a few months ago, cutting $200/mo from my food stamps. Thanks Obama Biden)
you are brainless blueMAGA fuck if you really think any harm has been reduced here
It’s my genuine opinion that a lot of this rhetoric is originating from propaganda and astroturfing.
You came into thread on a sensitive topic on another instance clearly trying to pick a fight with people, and then when people call you out for it, you double down and accuse them of astroturfing while also smearing them with some McCarthyist nonsense about “tankies”? Can’t you see that you are the astroturfing troll here? I’m dumbfounded that you’re acting this way and then think you’re somehow the victim in all this.
I would love to know which organization or agency is paying a bunch of online leftists to pretend to care about covid this late in the game. Like do they have any idea what astroturfing even means?
There is more to covid reduction than just supporting the vaccine. Paying people to stay home, like more humane countries, making vaccines mandatory for most, and not declaring covid over prematurely are things libs could have done.
But noooope, COVID over!! APPARENTLY!
Saying “oh the conservatives are worse” when democrats enabled disease through inaction is fucking gross my dude.
Check out this cold-blooded crybully hissing and snarling in the federated megathread.
Cool. Love how we can’t let people know this guy was dismissing covid trauma on our instance, because we’ll just be falsely accused of brigading again. Love federation.
I almost commented to tell you not to get involved in other instances. But ya, he was the one pulling that shit.
You know, if he just apologized early for being insensitive and not thinking his comments through, we all could’ve been cool.
How hard is it to see someone venting their grief, realize you missed the tone and back off?
if he just apologized early for being insensitive
There was a cold blooded “I am sorry if any of you were offended” apology and it was packaged with “woe is me the tankies have rejected logic and reason” masturbation paragraph.
EDIT: Found it.
Genuinely trying to understand why hexbear is getting defederated from other instances and see if my vague understanding of it matched reality. And willful misunderstanding of what I’m saying perfectly represents what I’ve experienced here. Look at how often I’ve been misquoted here. Entirely different words put in my mouth. One person even agreed that conservatives cause more harm than liberals and continued to accuse me of saying I’m a liberal. I think the fundamental misunderstanding here is that I believe liberalism is reducing harm by being the ONLY OPTION besides conservatism. And I don’t believe another, better option is possible because of how messed up business interests are woven into politics. That liberalism should be the right wing and actual left platforms should be the left. The amount of hate I got for having those views and disingenuous misquoting just blows my mind though. This is an echo chamber and I’m out. I hope there’s no hard feelings and I’m sorry when I came across as rude, I should’ve been more patient.
BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE!
Edit: well this thread was very enlightening. I didn’t really know what a “tankie” was before today. It’s my genuine opinion that a lot of this rhetoric is originating from propaganda and astroturfing. I wish you all good luck because it seems like this community is heading towards some dark places and it seems like basic empathy is being exploited to radicalize people into something that is anything but empathetic
Oh yeah, fuck that. They were totally in bad faith, but if after the first comment they backed off, it would’ve been different. The community here would have moved on and been cool if they did some self crit.
But they just had to hold onto the sense of superiority. And all because we checks notes had an issue with the US government causing the deaths of millions.
It do be wild that we just lived through a mass death event and kind of nobody gives a shit. Imagine reading in a history book that there was a pandemic in which 20 million people died. You would feel like shit. But we lived through it so we had to become gradually desentisized.
The correct response to the fact that millions of lives were lost to this virus is to lay on the floor and weep. But nobody has time for that because you have to pay the fucking bills. Every trauma in capitalism becomes stuffed in a box labeled “DO NOT OPEN” and stays there until people can’t take it anymore and shoot up a school.
Imagine going back in time to 2018 and telling your past self that there is gonna be a deadly virus that’s gonna kill millions of people. But the wildest part is that people would stop giving a fuck after two months of it.
We must never forget that this mass death was largely preventable. Millions of lives could have been saved if “western democracies” were equally responsible as China. But this was not possible because human life is worthless in capitalism. Furthermore, it was impossible because there is nobody in charge of these “western democracies”. As Matt Christman points out, Capital has completely taken over. China is the only place where there are still people holding the wheel. Every other country has completely lost control.
Yes. It is wild, it is horrific, and it is ongoing. The “Covid is over” campaign is a continuation of this brutal, evil policy. Governments have stopped tracking the pandemic and its impacts, but people are still getting sick, becoming disabled, and dying. We have to do what we can to help the people who have survived so far. It would be better if we had a comprehensive, health-centered global policy, but since we don’t have that, it’s up to us to do what we can to reduce the spread on a personal level, combat the “Covid is over” propaganda, and support the people affected. Solidarity!
Sounds like tankie propaganda to me
I’m still a hermit, because covid is still incredibly dangerous to me. I inject myself with weekly “turn-off-your-immune-system-because-its-being-a-dick-juice”, so one bout and I could be dead. Or wreck my brain, which is about all I’ve got left to survive for myself, because my body is already disabled.
I love that my comrades still care about me and people like me.
You matter, comrade! Your life and well-being are valuable, I’m glad you’re here with us! I think about the people I never see because they stay inside to protect themselves every time I put my mask on.
