I mentioned that I voted, and they naturally asked me who I voted for. I said, “De la Cruz. Third party.”
“Sorry, I didn’t quite catch that?”, one of them said, and the whole group looked at me a bit puzzled — so I reiterated, “De la Cruz, a third-party candidate.”
“…Wait, there’s a *THIRD* party?”
I think the main thing with the Euro mindset towards American is similar to American electoralism: theatre.
It was a pretty painfully liberal conversation all around, so I mostly stayed out of it. I feel like it was probably enough to just make clear who I voted for instead of aggressively going after every single bit of nonsense they said.
Oh sure, debating is mainly a waste of time. Answering questions and educating is good though.
Yeah, I got to explain how voting from abroad works, and I got to explain the general voting patterns of my family across the sea, so I did get to answer a few questions in that regard.
Incidentally, yesterday I watched the Boondocks episode “It’s a Black President, Huey Freeman” and plus ça fuckin change I tell you hwat
I’m certain a huge percentage of Americans don’t know there are third parties. And I bet a sizeable number of Americans think Bernie is “third party”. More than 50% of Americans read below a 6th-grade level. And - of course - Americans who can read at higher level usually don’t. We aren’t nation of readers either.
I was going to quote the literacy in the United States Wikipedia page but I decided not to. I noticed two things that are funny together.
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I assume the text is intentionally written to be obtuse, annoying, and unclear because it damages so much of the American mythos. The text is even worse than when I visited the page ~6 months ago.
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The average American would never, ever read more than a paragraph of that or similar crap because they can’t.
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Ninja edit
Snopes is a very American site and can take forever to get to the point but they did answer their main question simply.
Do More Than Half of Americans Read Below 6th-Grade Level?
Do More Than Half of Americans Read Below a 6th-Grade Level?
This claim is true
Nationally over 20% of adult americans have a literacy proficiency at or below Level 1
so first of all “nationally” is redundant, so don’t jot that down.
Secondly: 1/5 of adult americans can’t read AT ALL?? That’s… that’s too much.
Christ that page needs and editor
The definition of literacy has changed greatly; the term is presently defined as the ability to use printed and written information to function in society, to achieve one’s goals, and to develop one’s knowledge and potential
Add quotation marks ffs
Modern jobs often demand a high literacy level, and its lack in adults and adolescents has been studied extensively.
Not really relevant to the discussion of literacy in the US. Certainly not in the introduction.
According to a 1992 survey, about 40 million adults had Level 1 literary competency, the lowest level, comprising understanding only basic written instructions.
You are adding it as a source, just write the claim and add the year the claim was made.
A number of reports and studies are published annually to monitor the nation’s status, and initiatives to improve literacy rates are funded by government and external sources
Should be the first sentence if you’re going to include it at all.
It’s been a hot minute since I last watched IASIP, I think I had mixed feelings on it…
Plenty of places
This is a good site right now https://shorturl.at/b15Ab
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
This meme is dumb because it ignores that the republican candidate in question has harmed us in the past and his judicial appointments and policies continue to harm us in the present.
Not that the dems are a solution to the problem.
The democratic candidate is harming us right now to a similar extent. She’s not rude on twitter though
Why is it voters fault? Why the fuck can’t the Dems actually provide policy that people want?
If the people holding back their vote is due to the current genocide in Gaza, THEN WHY THE FUCK DON’T THE DEMS CHANGE COURSE ON THAT ONE FUCKING POLICY?
And, if it’s the voters fault, and the votesr are members of the Democrat party, and the Democrats are vaguely in some way a political party where the party membership decides policies and exerts control over the party leadership, why isn’t this the fucking Democrats fault?
You fascist fuck really enjoy gloating over putting people in camps. You’re a good reminder that Hitler wouldn’t have been possible without the SPD acting exactly like you, sticking to a failing liberal order with all the violent fervor they could muster and then immediately falling in line with the new status quo when things got serious. If Amerika gets more camps, not just the ones it is already running at the border, not just the slave labor system you call your prisons, but outright extermination shit, you’ll not be out protesting and fighting the pigs, you’ll not be the one hiding your neighbors from the gestapo, you’ll beat yourself off to the thought that you already did all you could by performing your pathetic ballot box ritual.
Hey, are you saying you wouldn’t do something about concentration camps?
Because it really seems like you’re fine with concentration camps
Ha! I had a feeling it wouldn’t be popular.
No, I’m not at all fine with concentration camps. I’ve started doing some small amount of advocacy recently that is resisting them to some small degree.
I don’t really know you, so I have no idea. For all I know you are doing a ton of other productive stuff, in which case great. But the one data point that I have at this stage is that you’re supporting voting for a stooge who the ruling classes are completely thrilled to have in the election, sitting there compliantly siphoning off 1% of the electorate to no purpose and serving as a stand-in for RCV, widespread protest, incrementalism, or anything else that might threaten their power that might otherwise get some investment of energy instead.
They hear that you really want to vote for a minority party in a FPTP election, and they laugh and laugh, chortling themselves to sleep secure in the knowledge that you’re content to spend time on counterproductive grandstanding that only helps them consolidate power that little bit much more. They can’t wait to get back to reality of colonial dominance tomorrow, as it is the reality of their lived experience, knowing that people who could be their opponents are spending time instead on fantasies.
I eagerly await your angry downvotes. Deep down, you know I’ve got a point.
No, I’m not at all fine with concentration camps. I’ve started doing some small amount of advocacy recently that is resisting them to some small degree.
Fantastic, though this depends on how you’re organizing. Getting organized is the only way to effect change.
I don’t really know you, so I have no idea. For all I know you are doing a ton of other productive stuff, in which case great. But the one data point that I have at this stage is that you’re supporting voting for a stooge who the ruling classes are completely thrilled to have in the election, sitting there compliantly siphoning off 1% of the electorate to no purpose and serving as a stand-in for RCV, widespread protest, incrementalism, or anything else that might threaten their power that might otherwise get some investment of energy instead.
The ruling classes kicked De La Cruz off of Georgia’s ballot, keeping her name but ensuring no votes for her count. RCV is a carrot that is both too ineffective to meaningfully change anything and yet too effective for either party to allow at scale. Widespread protest happens outside the ballot box, and “incrementalism” is doing nothing for the people as the Empire dies. You can’t threaten the ruling class by supporting them via the dems.
They hear that you really want to vote for a minority party in a FPTP election, and they laugh and laugh, chortling themselves to sleep secure in the knowledge that you’re content to spend time on counterproductive grandstanding that only helps them consolidate power that little bit much more. They can’t wait to get back to reality of colonial dominance tomorrow, as it is the reality of their lived experience, knowing that people who could be their opponents are spending time instead on fantasies.
They already consolidated their power, moving away isn’t helping them. The main thing you don’t get is that the dems also serve the ruling class
I eagerly await your angry downvotes. Deep down, you know I’ve got a point.
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Hexbear doesn’t have downvotes
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You don’t have a point.
they laugh and laugh, chortling themselves to sleep secure in the knowledge that you’re content to spend time on counterproductive grandstanding that only helps them consolidate power that little bit much more. They can’t wait to get back to reality of colonial dominance tomorrow, as it is the reality of their lived experience, knowing that people who could be their opponents are spending time instead on fantasies.
The ruling class chortle themselves to sleep no matter who anyone voted for, the entire game is theirs. You’re not going to legislate away capitalism. The incrementalism promised my entire life has only produced more right wing candidates over time.
You’re not the opponent of the ruling classes because you vote a certain way in bourgeoise elections. You’re the one grandstanding here, claiming that this voting is so very important. It’s a ceremonial ritual and I’m not gonna offer even a ceremonial vote for a party committing genocide. Eat my ass you smug liberal dork
Your writing here is truly evocative of the teachers of young Athenian statesmen in the fifth century BC.
And you’re such a good ally that you’ll show up and resist, right? You won’t just watch your neighbors be carted off, but you’ll stand arm in arm and resist gross human rights abuses, yeah? The same kind of resistance you put up to ICE during their raids or to weapons being shipped overseas for genocide? The same way you protect minority communities from violent police? You liberals are such amazing heroes, always putting yourselves between the oppressed and their oppressors. You definitely aren’t complicit in ‘tough on immigration’ rhetoric, funding the police even more, or commiting a genocide. So glad to have you around for when we childish communists can’t recognize the real enemy to progress and human liberty.
Wait but I thought lemmy libs say we’re secretly Putinist Trunp supporting bots?
Which is it?
Yeah Idk how Trump is supposed to be harming me and my misinformation troll farm friends here in Tblisi.
I voted Democrat in 2020 for whatever an overseas vote in a blue state is worth — the past four years left me without much need of convincing that the best strategy for US federal elections is indeed to vote third-party. Stateside “Seppos” will often experience some amount of cognitive dissonance upon learning that this is my informed decision, for my decision runs contrary to the civil-religious orthodoxy they were indoctrinated into practically since infancy. And the simplest way for such “Seppos” to deal with that stress is not to actually question their own indoctrination, naturally, but rather to convert their stress into aggression towards the stressor, which is in this case a non-binary second-generation immigrant on the opposite side of the Atlantic.
It is dubious at best that such “Seppos” will ever do anything actually productive with their stress — The whole of Seppoland is after all built cap-a-pie on this colonial psychopathology.
Palestinians are being put in concentration camps right now and Kamala has promised she will increase support.
You people are despicable
“schmoncentration camps.”
Ugh. Yeah pretty fitting for liberals. Genocide, but cutesy.
You people never have anything novel to say. You all regurgitate the same tired arguments, never once stopping to investigate the inane drivel you spit out after letting it bounce around in your empty heads for a little while. Since it’s never anything new, I don’t need to write anything new
I am going to treat you with a three part course though, we started with the main course so here’s an intermezzo and the dessert
