Would the US losing in Ukraine hurt the US elsewhere? Would it increase the likelihood that West Asia can free itself?

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Absolutely, any vassals of the US will have clear evidence of what they can expect in case of a war. The whole premise of US protection is going to be undermined.

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5 points

I feel like that statement was made for the Kurds too. That shit was literally just a propaganda blitz. Three months later U.S abandons them entirely.

From what I’ve heard the kurds are a bit problematic so I’m not exactly defending them but this exact kinda shit played out in Syria too.

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6 points

Yeah it’s the same playbook everywhere, I think the difference with Ukraine is that it’s very high profile than previous debacles.

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Note that for pro-war “Russia is losing more” etc. comments in that article, NYT is quoting Frederick Kagan, of the infamous neocon Kagan family, Victoria “Cookie Monster” Nuland married into (for another also neocon Kagan brother), while Institute for the Study of War is “ultra-hawkish” neocon “think-thank” of which another Kagan, Kimberly Kagan, is the president of.

They are all quite literally far-right fascist Project for the new American Century psychos. Thank you liberal NYT for bringing us their valuable opinions.

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14 points

After they lost vughledar (not sure about the spelling) things got extra bad for Ukraine, that city was a very strong fortification, on elevated ground that ensured a lot of surveillance of the surrounding areas and as consequence of the strength of that portion was a crucial point of the supply line for the battle front of two neighboring cities. Russia took almost a year to take the city down, and the consequence is quite dire to Ukraine for not only they lost such a valuable position, but Russia, naturally, now has control of a very strong defensive position that allows powerful support of an extensive area. If you look at the map, from vughledar so Zaporozhye Ukraine will have a hard time defending, and that is no small area.

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15 points

I’m expecting a general collapse of the AFU in the coming months.

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12 points

But just 3 more weeks to Moscow, I thought…

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8 points

I’m pretty sure there are still a lot of people in the west who think that.

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I dont know what’s worse, a US-trained, US-managed and US-supported crypto-nazi army or a battle royale of nazi warlords.

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8 points

Given that it’s a war of attrition that’s been going on for over two years now, I suspect that most of the nazis are actually dead at this point. Hence why the AFU is now kidnapping people off the street and gang pressing them to fight. There very few motivated fighters left in Ukraine.

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11 points

Fingers crossed.

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5 points

Yeah I think that Russia will complete their control on Donetsk oblast, and maybe cross the river on the southern oblasts that they control half of it, and possibly just stand on the defense or slow down the attacks even further, so either Ukraine makes a silent armistice in the form of just not attacking anymore, allowing those territories to be more and more assimilated to Russia, or they’ll keep limping along until there is nothing else left in the tank

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It’s also worth noting that the eastern parts are the ones where food production and industry are as well. So, once Russia move up to Dnepr, what’s left of Ukraine is going to be even more reliant on the west to stay afloat.

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3 points

From your lips to God’s ears, or however that phrase goes.

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6 points

This war will end next year I feel.

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5 points

I think it might even end this year at the rate things are going. The collapse isn’t linear, it’s accelerating in pace.

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