Socrates bemoaned those young’ns who had the audacity to read their Homer, instead of memorizing it.

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Eh, there is sufficient evidence to recommend children and teenagers having limited internet and social media access during their formative years at this point.

The tiktok algorithm of mindless doomscrolling funny little bits all short and digestible for a decaying attention span is just the most egregious example why restrictions should at least be considered.

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You could say that about a lot of things, though. Video games and TV were commonly criticized this way. And it was a popular meme on Reddit that people would be so addicted to the site that they’d spend hours scrolling it.

Criticizing tik tok is just popular on sites like this because people here really don’t like tik tok.

At any rate, parents can already try to restrict their children’s access. But governments are gonna have a hard time doing so without hurting everyone as a whole (eg, see the attempts of some US states to require giving your ID to porn sites). Dunno if you remember being a kid, but I found my way around every restriction my parents set and I just disliked them for it.

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Red Dead Redepmption 2 is not a video game.

“That’s not a game at all. That’s like fucking Shakespeare.”

-Tenacious D

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You realize that’s still true, right? You’re posting this as some big own as though it’s somehow not harmful to mindlessly consume any form of media to an extreme extent, especially in the learning years.

Somebody been watching too many tik toks?

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Somebody been watching too many tik toks

What a ridiculous logical leap.

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“TikTok is just like reading a book”

-OP

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LMAO this is way too harsh on the OP, poor guy just wanted to draw a parallel. Please stop murdering them in the comments.

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Nope, it’s normalising unnecessary bs

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Pinpoint the exact string of words where that was conveyed by op

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Learn 2 read, noob.

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The point was people are always looking for a scapegoat when they don’t understand shit. I’m not the one to “learn to read”

Edit: what the hell is that username

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Tik tok is legitimately rotting their brains though.

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They don’t adapt, though.

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The kids always adapt though.

There is a strong survivorship bias in this though. Some kids do adapt, maybe even most, but many still are harmed, and have been by unhealthy exposure to radio, television, videogames, etc. in the past. Social media is even wreaking havoc in the older generations right now.

It’s easy to point at the survivors and the success stories and say see, there is nothing to worry about - but that’s also a bit like pointing at the lifelong smokers who do not get lung cancer as an argument against promoting non-smoking.

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Yes, the trend of making more and more mentally disruptive technology has been continuing. Yes, capitalists have managed to make more and more effective attention/brain drains…that’s exactly what we’re saying.

The kids “adapt” in that the world has changed and kids have no choice but to live in the world they grew up in. It doesn’t mean the above things aren’t true. It just means things change, and I dunno about you, but I don’t see things moving in the most positive direction. Angrier people, less and less able to have nuanced discussions, people becoming more entrenched and hostile about their views, more instances of thinking people with differing opinions are “evil…”—that shit is in large part due to social media, not to mention network news (both “advancements” of the exact type were discussing).I mean, shit, look how much radio has changed. From old timey radio broadcasts with the family sitting around the fire hearing tales of Redd McGibbon and Bullet to fuckin Howard stern making strippers do math so people can laugh at them and goddamn Rush Limbaugh. See what we’re saying?

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Tiktok definitely doesn’t fall into anything intelligent that’s for sure.

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I spend a lot of time on TikTok and once the algorithm knows what you like it’s a fantastic way to waste your time, the same way reddit and YouTube are.

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They were making a typical “TikTok bad brain rot user stupid cringe natural selection🤓☝️” “joke”. Don’t bother explaining that to them because they don’t care

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They’re not wrong. Screen time is known to be harmful to children. And radio time may have been as well: hard to say, because kids aren’t listening to that kind of radio anymore. Two things can be true at once: pointing fingers at something that doesn’t apply anymore (when’s the last time you listened to a radio serial?) doesn’t invalidate the harms today.

Here’s what the actual experts say:

https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Children-And-Watching-TV-054.aspx

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Talk radio still rots a lot of brains of all ages. It’s insidious as a lot of folks still have that on in the background while driving to work or cooking etc, as compared to video and TV where you have to look directly at it and think about the message received with your whole brain.

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