Summary

Evangelical Christians have fallen prey to the temptations offered by Donald Trump, similar to those faced by Jesus in the desert. Trump has offered evangelicals wealth, protection, and power, leading them away from the teachings of Jesus and closer to the path set forth by the devil. The evangelical church has submitted to Trump, moving further from the values of serving the poor, healing the sick, and loving neighbors.

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Trump is a truly vile person. The recent Epstein tapes detail how he’d arrange extra-marital affairs for his “friends” so he could tell their wives about it and get them to cheat with him in revenge. Apparently one of his kinks was banging his “friend’s” wives.

Even Epstein the pedo thinks Trump is a notably horrible person.

That’s who Evangelical Christians are supporting, who they claim was saved by God to lead America. It boggles the mind.

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57 points

It boggles the mind.

It’s really simple. He institutionalizes hate, and they love him for it. That, and the racism.

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16 points

It’s definitely the racism

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8 points

They organize around hate, and there’s lots of things they hate.

And not coincidentally, that’s organized around tribalism and out-groups. But there’s way more than race that they identify as and hate “outsiders” for.

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Apparently one of his kinks was banging his “friend’s” wives.

Aha, I knew Hillary was just a bit too familiar with him during those debates. …

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Looks like you’re catching a lot of strays for this but I’ll hit you with logic instead of a downvote.

Do you really think if Trump had ever banged HIllary he’d have been able to keep his mouth shut about it during the 2016 election?

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He’s said a lot of dumb shit, but he’s smart enough to not talk about whatever happened with Epstein, for instance. I totally believe he would have kept quiet about that.

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Just curious, has everyone caught up yet? As in, have we realized and internalized that religious people don’t believe in god or heaven or anything like that?

Because just look at at-risk individuals and think about how certain contexts can shape numerous people.

Look at trauma and how it affects the psyche.

Look at how humans living in extraordinary environments radically change their behavior.

And then notice how you can’t detect any “god” or “afterlife” in a Christians psyche, or their behavior, or their flock. Just people acting similarly to everyone else, except we don’t pretend to have “the answer to life is god” and “being bad means burning in hell for infinity.” It’s so god damn obvious but to be fair it took around 30 years for me to “grok” that Christians are operating entirely on aesthetics.

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I’m from the Bible belt and in my experience these people absolutely believe in God and heaven, but probably very little past that. These people mostly have a “vibes based” understanding of their religion but many of them believe it to their absolute core. Most don’t read the bible past the popular verses and even less actually analyze what the text is saying, but that by no means indicates a lack of belief. It’s important to remember that their actions may indicate a lack of belief in the morals they espouse, but that’s cognitive dissonance not secret non-belief.

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And they shouldn’t bother reading anything that old and outdated, all religious texts are inadequate for addressing societal issues without regression or conservatism. Look at what’s happening to lgbt+ folk, none of this is okay, and religion is to blame

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As tempting as it is, don’t lump us all together like that. There’s a good contingent of is that’s like “if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a fucking antichrist.”

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Evangelicals have always been garbage people, and Trump is the latest god of their bullshit.

The article supposes they were good people at one time. No they weren’t.

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55 points

I was raised southern baptist. We went Sunday mornings, nights, and Wednesday nights. I walked out of that grift the night that the preacher was confronted, in front of the congregation, for having an affair with the lead deacon’s wife. It opened my eyes to all the hypocrisy, grift, and racism of organized religions. Especially the leaders of said religions! I’ve been saying that if these so-called “Christians” follow the orange shitbag douche so easily, then they’ll trip over their tongues to follow the antichrist.

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35 points

This. It breaks my heart that my family pushed me so hard to follow the teachings of Christ, and somehow this living symbol of greed, gluttony, thievery, adulterous behavior, and any other imaginable sin, has became their leader.

Thou shall not do shit unless it’s Donald Trump doing said shit.

I was warned about the promises of the Antichrist when I was a kid, and I swear to god my whole family would stand in line for a week to get the mark of the beast on their forehead if Donald Trump said it was the mark of I love religion and Jesus ™ for only $599.99.

They’re constantly hounding me to take my kids to their church like I’d be the one to send them to hell if there was such a place. They used to preach about love. The same church goes on about “trannies” and “the gays” and how the world is going to hell now.

Now there’s a fake political ad going around where the audio is edited to have a heckler scream “Jesus is lord” and Harris says something like, “you guys are at the wrong rally”. What the heckler really said was, “you lie!”

Doesn’t matter, goddamnit. That shit should be illegal. How is it legal to edit audio for a political ad and lie outright?

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I grew up in the Assemblies of God denomination. When I graduated from high school, I left home to go to college, expanded my horizons, and ultimately ended up deconstructing my religious beliefs. I have considered myself to be an atheist for more than 20 years, but I still have strong ethical beliefs that basically parallel the Christian teachings of empathy for the marginalized and the disadvantaged.

For the past 8 years, I’ve watched my “decent Christian” family slide further and further into Trumpism. They are unrecognizable as the people who taught me the value of Christlike behavior.

Most days, I feel like I’m a better Christian than they are. I’ve wondered for a long time how the same people who instilled those values in me have been led so far astray.

I recognize in hindsight that they were motivated by fear of God rather than love for their fellow humans. Fox News and Trump have preyed on that fear and gradually expanded it until it has turned to hatred of anyone who doesn’t look or vote like them.

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Yea.  I totally understand.  I'm in the medical field and I was telling one of my patients, wouldn't it be great if we, the people, bypassed the house and senate to pass a law to make it illegal for lying by ANY politician.  If a politician lied, they immediately forfeit their office.  If they are running for office, they are dropped out of the race.  If you aren't running but are speaking promoting a politician, then make it a very heavy fine based on income with a prison sentence for each individual lie.  If it's a media person, the fine would be based off the person's income, then fine the company based off it's year profit, and then prison for that person and the executive producer.
  And yes, I know, I know; free speech, how do you prove that a person knowing lies, yada,  yada, yada.  1)  We have free speech, but you can not yell fire in a crowded theater.  That puts the public in danger.  I would argue that politicians lying and disinformation puts the larger public in more danger.  2)  This would stop obvious lies.  No more fake figures being thrown out trying to make their lies sound like the truth.  Politicians would have to have proof before they spout their shit. 
 No more editing of video or "spinning" by so-called "news" channels.  No more deep fakes - disinformation by Americans or political groups.  No more 'FEMA spent all the money on immigrants'.  No more the economy is the worst in the world.  (Rather you believe it or not, we currently have the best in the world.)  No more illegals are voting, the election was stolen, ect.  If they say shit, they would have to have proof or they get a boot in the ass to kick them out the door.  This would go for any party, any office.  Federal, state, and local.  I truly believe that this would benefit every citizen of every party.
It sounds extreme, but it would definitely stop politicians and talking heads from spewing bullshit that harms our country.
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Your point is too hard to read.

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All these things run on the idea that no other country exists, that you can effectively fine foreign nationals for lying, even those from hostile nations.

Deepfakes will never stop existing, it’s hopeful but a waste of effort IMO.

In the age of information, controlling any information would be useless, false, intentionally false or anything else.

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Well there’s a reason the S in SBC stands for Southern and racism is exactly that reason lol.

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For evangelicals, you can take anything, put a Jesus sticker on it, and they’ll love it.

Bad chicken sandwich, Jesus sticker. Love it! Dog poop, Jesus sticker. Love it! Trump, Jesus sticker. Love it!

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