56 points

Rise of Skywalker was the complete disaster that Chuds thought the Last Jedi was.

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35 points

I still don’t understand the reaction to the Last Jedi. Otherwise sensible people have the most dogshit takes on it.

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I know it’s popular to defend TLJ because the main detractors against it are all racist chuds who hate it for the stupidest reasons, but it’s still a terrible movie. The plot goes nowhere, the world building is an affront to basic human sanity, and every character in the movie had a clause in their contract to grab hold of The Idiot Ball the second they came on screen and never let go of it lest any of them use their brains for long enough to negate the gigantic plot holes and stupid decisions permeating every scene. It had some great ideas that would have been fresh and exciting if they were executed better and weren’t in the second movie of a trilogy that was never intended to have those themes (you can’t really pull the “heroes can come from anywhere and be nobodies” theme when your entire trilogy is nostalgia bait glazing all the legendary figures from the OG trilogy in every other scene).

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick a best film out of that trilogy I’d unfortunately say TFA, with the caveat that it’s just a significantly worse version of A New Hope that hadn’t completely squandered its cast yet.

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Bingo, right on the money

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I’ve always been very pro Last Jedi - there’s some shaggy elements to it (in particular, low speed chase is kind of silly) but overall I actually really like it - Luke and Rey’s arcs are both good. I also really like “rey from nowhere” and the fact they recanted all of it was truly dogshit storytelling.

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I read that RJ wanted the suicide hyper drive attack to be done by Leia and got overruled. That would have made so much more sense.

Her tapping the force to pull off a once in a lifetime thing that even veteran pilots and computers can’t do.

Like Luke with the deathstar.

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17 points

Ray from nowhere and the kid with the force at the end was a great message that a hero can be from anywhere.

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17 points

LITTLE

WHITE

C U C K B A L L

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15 points
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There’s a lot of aspects about it I really like…but as a complete piece…it’s just not there for me. Take Luke Skywalker’s cynical turn for example. On paper: fucking love it. There’s that meme going around showing young and old luke with young college philosophy graduate and jaded Marxist professor.

But like…if you’re going to have earnestly eternal optimist Luke turn cynical it has to be from a failure of that optimism to have positive results rather than a failure to follow it. Luke being tempted to kill kylo ren makes sense to me…but I don’t get how he concluded his entire philosophy and worldview was wrong when by his own admission it was a “moment of weakness” where he almost did the most contradictory thing to his own philosophy that he’s ever done. If anything I think that whole fallout would have made him double down.

So much of the movie is like that. Good pieces in isolation but none of them quite work.

That being said: it’s the best by far of the sequel trilogy. Rise of Skywalker is a dumpster fire. Force awakens is a pandering cynical cash grab with nothing worthwhile to say or add that gets progressively worse every year.

Last Jedi feels like it’s made by an actual artist with something to say…even if what he’s saying just doesn’t quite hit.

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13 points

nerds will immediately go home after watching a movie to watch a four hour video essay before they can process their own feelings on things

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there are some gems and it’s the best of the trilogy, but there is also just a lot of garbage and poor choices.

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42 points

THERE WERE SIGNS FOR THOSE WITH EYES TO SEE THEM

Also, Palpatine showed up with no foreshadowing or anything

The last four years count as foreshadowing

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Too hard to notice the signs when you’re at bottomless mimosa brunch for 4 years

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The last four years count as foreshadowing

2016 was foreshadowing. 2021 was the director yelling it in your face.

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15 points

Really, the last four centuries are foreshadowing.

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Damn, can’t believe Cromwell happened again.

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8 points

We need to give Sein Fein nukes.

Not, like, because of the current crisis just in general.

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JUST LIKE IN THE TREATS

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16 points

When the world needed UlyssesT the most, he vanished

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where can I watch the fall and death of the Amerikkkan empire in 4k UHD?

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2 points

with your eyes

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29 points

Libs still don’t get that this is how political economics works. Like, this is the core of it. Capitalism in decay yadda yada

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No no no. Economics is when there’s an evil ghost and you have to beat it with the power of being horny for a girl that’s not into you.

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8 points

God I wish it was that easy I have so many lesbian crushes I would be unstoppable.

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There was only two things that were good.

The infantry landing onto the side of a space destroyer in high atmosphere was a neat idea. Undone I think by having the weird horse cavalry. Really needed an Andor or Rogue One seriousness to pull off.

But I did like the Rey and Kylo Ren being able to affect and pass objects accross time and space. It built on the force projection from the Last Jedi.

It felt weird and magical how the force should be. And they used it enough in earlier scenes that passing the saber back and forth was not a deus ex macchina in the finale.

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Undone I think by having the weird horse cavalry

The weird cavalry was kinda cool, the part that undid it for me was that the entire sequence hinged on Palpatine not knowing which direction is up

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