Oh look. A candidate with actual policy won their race. Check out her page; she ran for a city council seat and her ‘issues’ section is five times longer than Kamala’s was.
Dems should be taking notes, but I doubt they will.
Would you stop with the nonsense? Harris had an 80 page economic plan.
https://kamalaharris.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Policy_Book_Economic-Opportunity.pdf
As a person who was planning on starting a small business in an economically disadvantaged area for 3-5 years in the Mountain time zone which operates only on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I feel like the Kamala Harris campaign had some very good policies. But I can see how other people might disagree.
I’m starting to think moderates really do have that goldfish memory…
America has been a lot worse off than it’s about to be.
We had actual slavery, we genocided the native inhabitants, women were property, we even burned some as witches for telling us what we didn’t want to hear.
Emmit Till was brutally murdered as a child because a white girl wanted some attention.
We interned the wives and children of Japanese American while their husbands and fathers were drafted into our military.
Is shit gonna be horrible?
Absolutely.
But it probably won’t be worse than America has ever been. And to stop fighting now makes zero sense.
Learn a lesson from progressives, it’s been almost 20 years since we’ve been happy about a presidential election. That’s never made us stop voting, it’s never stopped us from working on the next election, and it sure as shit hasn’t stopped any of us from complaining.
But maybe next time you can remember that the politically disengaged won’t be motivated to vote by a candidate who chases Republican votes.
For longer than I’ve been alive the most popular excuse for not voting has been:
Both parties are the same
So when Dems act like Republicans, it just normalizes them and makes more people feel ok voting R, and depresses D turnout.
Please don’t forget, or check out for four years.
We had actual slavery
We have actual slavery. It’s the industrial complex prison system and it’s about to grow substantially.
Oh for sure, I think if the migrant camps actually get built in time, the plan is for them to be held indefinitely while planned incompetence makes it take forever to determine if they’re citizens or not.
All the time they’re being “paid” $0.07/hr for manual labor.
But four years honestly just isn’t enough time to do all that stuff. In four years everyone will be mad at trump again and even a bland moderate can beat him again.
Hopefully we choose someone better, but I don’t think the DNC will let us choose.
I thought those camps were already built? Like back in the Bush era. They called them secure unused railway facilities IIRC, but if you look at them from a different perspective… They look like concentration camps at the end of rail lines, out in the middle of nowhere.
I truly don’t believe we’ll be given a choice in 4 years. There are already talks of a 3rd Trump term. Even if that fails or Trump croaks, Vance is perfectly aligned to continue the mission.
Never stop voting?
Either progressives are a super tiny minority or that’s absolutely bullshit.
Because you wanna argue that progressive policy is super popular but somehow progressives can’t get their views in the Democrat party. And somehow despite always voting Bernie lost handedly in 2020.
If progressives exist in the number you think they might want to actually start voting in every single primary and general and actually take over the party.
Boy, you’ve convinced yourself you somehow are always smarter than everyone else.
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SOMEWHERE IN A SAD LITTLE CHURCH THE FUTURE IS DEFEATING THE PAST
All of this hopefulness assumes they don’t erode voting rights over the next 4 years. And they’ve had plenty of time to stage exactly that, including captured courts when anyone fights those new laws.
Don’t give it to them freely. If we give in, they can just move on to the next thing. Make even minor law changes a pain for them. Fight every battle so that they cannot spend as much time eroding voting rights.
Elections are run at the state level, even ones for federal office. Make sure every local office is filled with a progressive that will stand up for it. Some states have elections next year (before midterms) for offices that are going to matter for exactly that
I don’t think any supreme court justices are in this thread, and they are the ones that mostly have a say.
Eroding voting rights will be done on a federal level.
I’m not saying you are wrong, we should definitely protest, resist, and vote in local elections, but we don’t really get a say now that the country decided to give the reigns to fascists. I don’t think people realize how hard this will be to undo. These SC justices are going to be there for a very long time.
I’ve heard tentative plans for a mass general strike in 4 years. It won’t be easy, but if they won’t hear our voices, they don’t get our labor. There’s a lot of preparation to do between now and then, and we’re going to have to look out for each other. But labor has more power than we realize if we just use it.
Even then, that doesn’t mean it’s over.
The fight against fascism is literally never over, even if Trump lost it wouldn’t be over.
The sooner everyone acknowledges that, the better off we’ll be.
What’s holding us back is the DNC insisting every election is life or death and could be the last election to justify shit the Dem voting base doesn’t want.
They had their Tea Party. It’s time for our Guillotine Party, to address the problems created by the Second Estate.
