91 points

Not just fewer kids. But fewer conservatives too.

Gosh, I love it here.

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47 points

Conservatives love having corporate masters, so they’re all staying on reddit.

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27 points

You know, it’s so funny (though obviously not in an enjoyable way per se) how those folks are so selective and picky about freedom. Like freedom is OK when it’s the freedom to enter a supermarket without a mask, but it’s not OK when it’s the freedom to express your gender. And as in this example, when it comes to corporate masters…

Don’t you just love capitalism? And don’t you just loooooove capitalists? It’s honestly frightening how reminiscent it is to the way the fascists took power in 1930s Germany.

And by the way, I’m noticing a parallel with how much they not only embrace conservative evangelical Christendom, but also act like it’s the epitome of freedom and liberty - the American Dream, if you will. If you attend one of the US’s most notorious fundie schools, you’re not allowed to stay up late, mingle with the opposite gender too much, attend dances, or be pretty much anything other than cishet (and implicitly, cishet white male). The irony of how said school is named “LIBERTY” University never seems to die on me.

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Conservatives love giving lip service to freedom, but they hate anyone actually exercising their freedom.

Basically they only care about appearances and are devoid of any actual substance. That’s why they scream “virtue signaling” so much. Since they have no real virtue, they can’t conceive of anyone else having any either.

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17 points

Sounds like a win-win for everyone.

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8 points

Truth social. Lol.

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11 points

Truth Social is for conservatives that need more oppression than they get on reddit.

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8 points

Moving to Truth Social is just trading one corporate master for an even bigger corporate master.

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1 point

well not entirely. We seem to have a migration of r/conservative here. I looked. It is discretely awful.

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13 points

A lot of the political discussion I’ve read on here has also been pretty well thought out. I feel like people are taking time to explain their perspective more and even if in general it’s been more left leaning there is definitely more nuance. I was surprised by the quality of some of the discussion around the end of affirmative action.

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3 points

Fewer conservatives, yes. If it wasn’t for the harcore tankies and trolls it would really be perfect. But it’s very close, much better than Reddit.

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82 points

I’m a teenage FOSS enthusiast and I’m of the opinion that there are a lot more of us here than you seem to all think.

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57 points

not speaking for OP but when I think about not wanting “kids” around, I mean immature people. I’m looking to be part of something like the reddit prior to them buying Alien Blue.

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15 points

Agree. I suspect that the UX challenge of the Fediverse as well as the fact that you’d largely only migrate here if you’re ideologically displeased with the admins means that people on this site skew more mature.

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4 points

The people on here at the moment are the same kind of people that exclusively used old.reddit.com on desktop.

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9 points

Booyah high five! Glad you’re here

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6 points

As a fellow teenager and a FOSS enthusiast, Linux user and Linux tinkerer and hobbyist, I’m glad to see there are more people my age getting into the FOSS space.

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Same same, it is mostly the matter of your FOSS knowledge, if you were a FOSS nerd you would most likely to switch from reddit in some way or another… (16 btw)

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1 point

Same, also 16, and the ‘mentally kids’ excuse is more insulting than they may have realised.

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1 point

There are dozens of us!

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Much more than dozens haha

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I am not a teenager, but I think younger people are generally pretty fucking cool.

Yeah, yall are immature, so what, compared to old people when they were your age, y’all are so MUCH COOLER.

Seriously, on every metric, I don’t understand how you can shit on young people these days. They are just an improvement on us.

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76 points

how do you do, fellow adults?

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35 points

my back hurts

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20 points

I have a headache

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7 points

I sneezed too hard and now I have a sharp pain in my neck

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5 points

… Back in those days we’d tie an onion on our belt

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1 point

my muscles ache

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12 points

We do a bit of adultery

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9 points

My knees ='(

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4 points

MY LEG

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2 points

Just had my yearly colonoscopy

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2 points

Pretty good today. Hope you too

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72 points

Agree. But it’s not kids, it’s stupid people of all ages. Same thing happened with Reddit and with the Internet as a whole. Used to be you had to be a little smart to know you wanted to be on the Internet and figure out how to get it working. Then same was true of forums and IRC. Then same was true of Reddit. But then Reddit changed formats trying to be a TikTok style quick content scroll app, so idiots who just want to scroll started using the site and quality of discussions went down. I hope Lemmy grows but I hope the sign up process stays as it is, to weed out the extra stupid.

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I think you‘re onto something. I read a lot of comments of people thinking the fediverse is too complicated to deal with and while I disagree - but also think it has issues - there does seem to be a barrier of entry for a good portion of people in the form of „inconvenience.“ So whoever is here really wants to be here and not just be an anonymous arse. I don‘t think you gotta be particularly smart, you gotta step out of your comfort zone.

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8 points

Hmm this is also a good point. I’ve been explaining to redditors that Lemmy is not that complicated and only takes a couple minutes to get started. But reading this, now I’m hoping Lemmy can find the balance between number of active users and quality of content. I’m wondering if my spreading the word on reddit was a bad idea.

Maybe the “work” required to make the jump to Lemmy will be enough to keep lower quality content (for whatever reason) at bay for a bit longer, though. Of course, it won’t last forever. All we can do is make our communities good spaces from the get-go and try to maintain them carefully as we grow.

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4 points

I think the way Lemmy works (wrt federations) makes this less of an issue. Eventually people who like the way things used to be will primarily use oldhead instances that only federate with other oldhead instances. Lemmy.world will end up feeling just like Reddit (more or less) but there will always be spaces for other communities.

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I think it‘s good to grow. Lemmy (or the Fediverse, I suppose?) should be as inclusive, convenient, and engaging as can be. It has only just started (in my opinion), we‘ll see how it goes. I like it here so far, feels like people are less prone to jump at your throat for voicing a (harmless) opinion.

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6 points

Which part of it is supposed to be complicated? I’ve seen this argument many times, and while I’m still trying to figure out the user interface(s), the whole idea is pretty basic

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7 points

I can‘t tell you since I also disagree. I did basically the same thing I did on Reddit, I only got thrown off seeing multiple „subs“ with the same name.

Some people complained how complicated „explanations“ are. I saw these types of comments on the Reddit Alternatives sub.

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Yes, this exactly. I’m starting to suspect that either someone very misinformed or someone with an agenda started spreading this rumor.

It just takes one person to reaffirm that it really is “too much work to switch” and “you aren’t lazy for not trying” to keep a lot of folks in place.

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6 points

I would guess the whole “federation” part. It can be confusing for non tech minded people to try and understand distributed sites. They might not understand that lemmy.world and lemmy.ml while both being lemmy are not the same site.

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I’m also a bit confused by it being ‘complex’. I created an account (I chose .world as it had world in the name, as it turned out that was a great decision lol), you log in, click on ‘all’ and sort by top/day you’ve essentially got ‘Reddit’, or am I missing something lol.

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Getting one’s head around the concept of instances is hard for some people who aren’t used to dealing with tech beyond the basic social platforms.

Is it one social media platform, or is it a bunch of individual ones? The fact that the answer is “it depends” is confusing. Especially when you get into defederation and cross-platform interaction.

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6 points

It was the worst thing to witness on reddit. A post with tens of thousands of likes and only a handfull of comments

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I boosted from 1k karma to 20k by searching ‘pun’ on every top joke each day for a week.

It’s enough that good/bad posts get boosted up/down by votes without them generating Karma.

Intelligent answers aren’t always the most popular…

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Reddit karma wasn’t about popularity or intelligence. It was about who got there first. If you shotgun enough comments into brand new threads your karma will skyrocket.

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Then same was true of forums and IRC

When IRC was entirely people on command line clients that existed on *nix. But that has changed with the ease of use of clients for Windows, and then eventually web clients.

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67 points

Lemmy is so good right now because there’s no commercialization here.

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16 points

My ublock has been at a constant “0” on this site since I’ve started. A youtube tab will have over a hundred by the end of a 10 minute video.

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And hopefully never will be. It seems like the people hosting instances aren’t in it for the money. Particularly the *.world guys have other fediverse projects big enough that they could’ve done something like, say, add ads to it.

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7 points

The .world sites are being financed by a patreon and other donations. They even make their finances public every few months.

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4 points

The reasons to develop it also are ideological and not ecological ones.

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