A medical resident worked 207 hours of overtime in a month. His case highlights Japan’s continuing problem with karoshi - death by overwork.

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When I started my company, we had a recession a year in. I worked 80 hour weeks for about 6 years and my wife not much less but she tapered off in 4. Twelve hour days Monday to Saturday and a 8 hour day on Sunday. Occasionally I took a day off and did do 2 week holidays. Did another 60 hour weeks for about ten years after. That is not that uncommon as a new business owner mind you.

The work is not that hard but if people are dying, I suspect it has much more to do with stress.

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So idk who that is but I mean okay but medical residents don’t get 2-week vacations, ever. They don’t get to control what hours they run and end up with shifts so long that they’re using stimulants just to attend said shifts without passing out. Apples and flapjacks, you’re comparing.

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I suspect they do get vacations but I suspect it can be quite stressful particularly for some people that don’t manage stress well.

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Not that they get to choose, with entire quarters blocked off and never 14-day cushy vacations.

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Man and here I am complaining of working 3AM + weekends.

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Managers in the US must be foaming at the mouth.

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207 hours/month = 51.75 hours overtime per week, or a 92.75 hour workweek. Until recently, US residents worked those hours, too (it’s now technically capped at 80 hours, but there are exceptions.)

Medical training is toxic.

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80 hours.

What an absolute acid trip of a country.

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Find a country where medical residency doesn’t work like this. It’s an archaic holdover from the 1800s era when student doctors were trained by apprenticeship

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The Netherlands has pretty strict laws on how much you’re allowed to work, 12 hours max a day 60 hours max a week and you can deny working overtime.

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But…. apprenticeships don’t have to be like that. Like there are apprenticeships for many other jobs, and they never are this abusive and awful.

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During Covid I worked about 72-80 hours per week. It was awful. We were pulling guard on stockpiles of COVID vaccine since our president of our university was from Iran and he expected crazy right wing terrorism to try to destroy or steal them.

Money was incredible; the overtime was AWFUL. I single handedly think working that 6 months of overtime is now why I medically retired.

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Same here. I worked overtime 45 out of 52 weeks in 2020. Only to come out of the pandemic and still have hospitals trying to push too many patients on us, understaff us, supply chain shortages… And they wonder why so many healthcare professionals have burnt out and quit the field.

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The key here is medical resident. They’re abused in every country and forced sleep on call in the hospital and pay is shit compared to attendings.

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This shit right here. We need to completely overhaul the medical residency system. Corporations are literally killing these workers for profit and the hazing culture of medicine continues to ignore that fact.

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Yeah, let’s not forget that the residency system was designed by someone who took massive amounts of cocaine…and back then the concentration of work was not nearly as bad…

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