Sad to see almost none of the devs, from
Apollor (ChristianSelig), RIF (u/talklittle), Infinity (u/Hostilenemy),
Boost (rmayayo), BaconReader, to Relay (u/DBrady), etc. are not considering Lemmy at all.

I know these were hobbies but by atleast developing it for some time just to make transition for your audience to Lemmy easier would have gone a long way!

@lemmy @LemmyDev Lemmy will remain a niche platform if not enough people switch to it

33 points

Perhaps Sync for Lemmy will help.

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I really don’t think they owe people a Lemmy App. Hell, this platform might even be dead in a couple of months.

Lots of people are making Lemmy apps, so there’s no real need for them to make one as well. The entire platform is a work in progress and there are a number of apps available, so just be patient and eventually they’ll be refined and ready.

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We are one centralised and pretty Reddit alternative away from people flocking to it.

As swanky as it sounds, I doubt fediverse with all its quirks, bugs, instability, confusion etc. will be able to sustain or even gain mass adoption.

I want this to be false, but we have Mastodon as an example and it ain’t getting the traction it needs to replace or even properly compete with Twitter. Especially not once BlueSky opens up, assuming it will happen.

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What makes you say Mastodon isn’t getting any traction? To me https://mastodon-analytics.com tells a different story.

I agree a well thought out centralised Reddit alternative could swoop in, but I’m in no hurry to look at anything other than Fediverse alternatives. I see no compelling reason to.

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The active user chart on that site shows a spike after Twitter was sold and then a 50% decline and a flat line after.

It’s not bad, but doesn’t seem to be growing.

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Quadrupling the daily active user to 1.1-1.2M is so far so good. I don’t know how different your story is but that is barely 0.5% that of Twitter still.

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Judging by user count alone is deceiving, in my opinion. We need to look at how many “big Twitter personas / companies” are moving to Mastodon, because they are the ones generating content and increasing traction.

As it is right now, I only see some people creating Mastodon accounts and posting 1:1 with what they still post on Twitter. This is not enough.

But at the same time, all migrations take time and we will only be able to determine a “winner” after months if not years of this process taking place.

I’m crossing my fingers and hoping for the best still.

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I think having 100M+ users as a goal is unsustainable and unrealistic. I’m quite happy with where we’re at, and optimistic about where we’re going. If growth in the fediverse continues, we’ll be ok.

My feed on Mastodon already moves quicker than I could ever keep up with.

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I just hope we won’t end up having what used to be Reddit (or Twitter) fragmented across 10 different platforms. That would definitely suck :/

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I doubt fediverse with all its quirks, bugs, instability, confusion etc. will be able to sustain or even gain mass adoption.

I think the same. I was with the first wave that jumped over during the Reddit blackout earlier in June and questions like

“Which instance is the best one?”

“Why is there a /c/gaming on lemmy.world and a /c/gaming on lemmy.ml? Which is the best one? Shouldn’t they be centralized?”

“How do I search every instance in existence? What do you mean some instances don’t talk to other instances??”

I get the feeling most users want a centralized and highly managed stream of content and don’t care for content on a network of small, individually managed, forums

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Mastodon requires the people I want to hear from to migrate. If Person X still uses Twitter, I have to use Twitter to hear from them.

Lemmy is different. All we need is enough active users to generate interesting content. We also don’t need it to gain mass adoption. We just need adoption large enough to create interesting content. That means we don’t need to grow 5000x to meet Reddit numbers. We just need to grow X to be great.

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Yup. This just needs needs enough people, doesn’t matter much who, to post and repost interesting content like people do on Reddit. There’s no fanbase or content creators here to worry about like on YouTube or Twitter

The ux is already about to be better than reddit in a few weeks (kinda already is with wefwef) too. More people will come as they realize it has the same content with better ux

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Fair point!

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This platform might even be dead in a couple of months

It’s been there for a couple of years, it’ll be fine lol

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I’m talking about amount of activity, it’s not exactly bustling right now so I imagine it was pretty damn quiet before the Reddit situation.

There’s no problem with that, but why would any of the Reddit app developers devote their time to Lemmy if it’s not going to catch on.

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6 points

I agree, i don’t think there’s any point in having them make another client, the few that are already available are plenty good. More choice doesn’t hurt but i won’t be angry at them for not making a lemmy 3rd party app.

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5 points

I agree, there are communities here that had postings from 3 years ago as the most recent, topics like YouTube. The largest Lemmy database has only 1 million comments in total (Lemmy.ml) for all of history.

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9 points

Lemmy needs to do a lot to handle a fraction the traffic that Reddit does. The system worked because it wasn’t being stressed by user demand.

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Of course they don’t owe anyone anything.

I still hope one or more of these experienced devs build lemmy apps. It is their experience and existing UI code base that I value. I’m glad that there are several new lemmy apps available, but the new devs will take years to achieve what the incumbents already have. I don’t just mean code. The incumbents have already made plenty of mistakes and delt with complaints/suggestions from their userbase. They know what works for their users and can produce a polished lemmy with less time and effort than someone starting from scratch.

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How do you know they’re not considering it at all?

Reddit just pulled the rug out from under them, give them some time at least to come to terms with that and decide what’s best for them. They certainly weren’t hobbies, look at Christian’s (Apollo) posts on the debacle and you get a sense of the scale of what he built.

I’m hoping Christian makes a Lemmy compatible app (I’d subscribe in an instance like I have been for Apollo) like the developers of Tweetbot did for Mastodon but they have to do what is right for them in the first instance!

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5 points

Well Doctile Alligator is trying to implement a subscription model. Of cause you can also compile it yourself with your own API key since it keeps being Open Source

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7 points

There are some fantastic apps being made right now though. For android I am following development for:

Connect

Jerboa

Liftoff

Thunder

Connect is only on Google Play, but the bottom 3 I keep updated using the Obtainium app which grabs the releases from GitHub (gets updates faster then waiting for Google Play).

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Thank you for letting me know about obtanium.

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Connect dev here. Glad you’re enjoying it! The future is looking bright with all of these great apps under development.

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5 points

If you’re on iOS, some great options are (in no particular order):

  • Memmy
  • Mlem
  • Liftoff
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I would also add wefwef to the list. Don’t be put off by the name. To me it’s the most Apollo like.

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4 points

it is a webapp

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That is correct. But you can add it to your homescreen and then it behaves pretty much like a native app.

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