The Supreme Court ruled Biden’s student-loan forgiveness is illegal, meaning borrowers will resume payments without debt cancellation this year.

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I hope Gen Z never forgets this.

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It’s a great lesson in how important elections are. Trump was able to appoint multiple supreme court justices which have shaped the future of America for years due to their most recent decisions and will continue to shape it for decades after he is gone.

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yeah, i’m glad that there wasn’t anything that could of been done under Obama…oh wait (yes it was a multi factor fuck up, but all the fuck ups were from people who were supposed to be “on our side” trying to claim power just a little longer and fucking miss me with the hand waving of there was nothing that could be done! there was!) Voting is important yes but can we stop pretending it’s a fucking magic bullet? Cause it’s not. Its one tiny itty bitty thing that needs to be done. Hell voting doesn’t even work if you don’t have any of the other stuff surrounding it. People need to get organized both at home and at work and get ready to take the fight to them through unions and strikes at the very least.

i’m so fucking sick of the answer to all of this is “go vote” when there is much more than just that needing to be done. Don’t just vote, go get fucking organized with community, and fucking fight.

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Yeah, Democrats lost a Supreme Court seat because one old lady refused to retire and they lost out on months of judicial confirmations this year because a different old lady refused to retire.

(if the Republicans take the Senate in 2024 I hope it’s by a narrow enough margin that they have to worry about 90-year-old Chuck Grassley the same way we’ve had to worry about Feinstein)

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You know how everyone knows you’re supposed to brush your teeth twice a day for 2 minutes, AND FLOSS? If we all did that on the regular, dentist appointments would be quick and painless the vast majority of the time.

Instead, we’ve got people who barely brush, never floss, avoid the dentist and then hate the dentist for giving them pain and grief when they finally get around to it.

Voting is like that. No one would have to harp on everyone to go vote if everyone did it, and frankly if everyone voted according to their own actual interests and benefits, we wouldn’t be IN this mess to begin with.

It’s not that it’s a magic bullet, and I don’t think anyone is pretending it is. It’s that not enough people ARE voting, and it’s the single best way we have to make a large step in the right direction.

If we all voted blue every election, without fail, eventually we start to see the impact of avoiding the GOP regressions. Eventually we gain momentum.

Vote AND organize. But if you can’t even be arsed to vote, what makes you think you’ll be willing to do the vastly more intensive actions involved in an active fight?

Do the bare minimum ffs. If you (global you) don’t vote, miss me with the bullshit angst and wimpy call to actions no one will take. It’s just as much a hand waving whether it’s a fist, a middle finger, or a dismissal if it’s not engaged otherwise. We need to use ALL the tools we have against oppression.

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Voting is the BARE MINIMUM required of a citizen living in a democratic society. You use all tools available to ensure a difficult job is done efficiently and effectively.

At scale, thinking that any problem cannot be solved via a single-facet solution is so myopic that I can barely contain my anger when I encounter it.

Couple that with a lack of understanding that nothing is instant, and everything requires participation in a democracy - and it becomes nearly impossible.

And it’s could HAVE.

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It’s especially galling being repeatedly told to vote when the dems refuse to actually fucking fight. They made nowhere near the amount of effort to block Trump appointees that republicans made to stop Obama appointees and no amount of “high road” moral victories will outweigh the effect of having a far right leaning supreme court for a generation

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Don’t just vote, go get fucking organized with community, and fucking fight.

And do what exactly? Hold a sign on a sidewalk and yell? It all revolves around voting. If your actions don’t end up changing votes, then it’s literally pointless.

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i agree with you, but that paragraph is blocky

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It’s a great reminder why first-past-the-post needs to go. Who’s going to step up for the Dems this year? Are we really counting on an anemic Biden to carry the party against an energized right? Or will someone step up to the plate only to be reprimanded as a “spoiler”?

We need actual competition in the political space. If incumbent cronyism could be effectively challenged we’d have politicians who care a bit more about representing and a bit less about political capital.

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Fuck, I’m a Millennial, and I’ll never forget this. And my Gen Z kids are also pissed even though we are fortunate enough to be able to pay for their college. This family is never voting red.

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Yeah between this, abortion rights, and the affirmative action thing… it’s gonna be a rough next few years, but in the long term the Republicans are toast. I think what we’re experiencing now are their last spasms for power because they know they’re on the way out.

Just look up the amount of registered democrats vs. registered republicans in this country. IIRC there’s like half again as many democrats.

It’s almost like the only reason republicans ever win elections right now is due to is voter suppression.

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Yeah, Millennial here as well. I was lucky enough to have been able to pay off my loans. But I’m still pissed at the decision.

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I hope all americans pay attention. This was struck down due to the way it was implemented (under the “heroes act” as an "emergency) which reflects how broken the US political system is.

While the court is conservative this probably better reflects how broken the system is in Washington. It’s arguable whether this is the courts fault or the dems for using something they knew might be struck down. The initial picture of this just being the courts fault is probably too simple - it is better seen through the prism of next year’s elections and both sides posturing and scoring points.

It’s helpful to the dems to have another unpopular court decision, but it’s up for debate whether this is straight forward conservative court blocking the dems or the dems knowingly pushing something that would get struck down to help drive outrage, it a bit of both with the dems taking a gamble knowing they win either way. None of the scenarios reflects well on US democracy.

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It’s helpful to the dems to have another unpopular court decision, but it’s up for debate whether this is straight forward conservative court blocking the dems or the dems knowingly pushing something that would get struck down to help drive outrage

Brain dead take.

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114 points

Taxpayers spent over $1 Trillion on the PPP program, of which, $200 billion is thought to be fraudulent. Another case of only corporations get socialism in the US.

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Already rich people get 1.7trillion in tax cuts: crickets

Former middle class Americans get 400bil one time payment: oh fuck no

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The sheer audacity and stupidity of the hypocrisy is staggering and enraging.

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Oh no, not crickets… More like exuberant enthusiasm.

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So you want to steal from other Americans that did not attend college or did attend college but not during the eligible period, because the corporations do it? You people are trash.

If you live in the US you are rich compared to the rest of the world. You are already in the top 90% of global earners. Stfu. Move to a 3rd world country with what you have and live like a king.

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And why the hell would we just lay down and accept the fact that our grandparents didn’t have student debt because tuition could be paid with a part time job?

Why should we accept that sometimes three incomes isn’t enough to support a family when one “unskilled” laborer used to be able to comfortably support a family of five.

Why should we accept the fact that full time at minimum wage can’t afford to rent an apartment anywhere in the United States?

Why should we accept that people would rather kill themselves than saddling their family with medical debt.

Why should we accept that people are forced to dangerously ration a drug that costs $10 to produce but costs hundreds of dollars at the pharmacy, with insurance?

Why the fuck would another country having things worse mean we should stop fighting for better?

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Just like taxes are theft too… Fuck off and read a book.

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That’s not even all of the fraud, that’s just the really obvious stuff - overseas scam artists inventing fake companies. Rich members of Congress getting PPP loans for their “businesses” and using the money to buy yachts doesn’t seem to be counted.

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Surprised Pikachu face

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4 points

“Capitalism on the way up, socialism on the way down”

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79 points

Remember who did this when you vote in the next election.

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Who did this, non elected lifetime appointments?

Thats who will do this, specially the supreme court of old out of touch oligarchs.

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Non-elected lifetime appointments who were all appointed by Republicans

The shit rolled downhill, but I can see the person doing the shitting.

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The people we elected put them there for a reason. Still matters who you vote for.

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Good thing there wasn’t a judge that could of stepped down during Obama. /s

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Who nominated and approved those appointments?

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The Federalist Society

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7 points

Oh wow, your pedantic argument really swayed me!

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78 points

What a garbage country.

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Absolute shit show

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Trash-tier

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Oh edgy… Keep going, I’m almost there honey ;)

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Thats quite a precedent. The president doesnt have discretion about his own department of education. Thats a complete undermining of the entire executive branch if its no longer able to make decisions about the executive branch.

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Well the executive branch is useless, unless you put in the ultimate cheat code of having R as your party initial. then you can do no wrong and use the hidden magical wand behind the nixon painting to do anything.

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unless you put in the ultimate cheat code of having R as your party initial.

Sucks that Republicans are so hellbent on forming a christo-fascist authoritarian regime with the only goal being to pump money into corporations and the wealthy.

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Well that’s the only reason the party still exists, so…

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Eh, this was always on shaky legal grounds. Even Pelosi herself said last year that she didn’t think the Executive had the authority to unilaterally do this, and as I understand, Biden was skeptical as well. It’s a bit of a stretch to say that Congress intended to allow the President to unilaterally void student debt when they passed a measure to allow for adjustments during emergencies.

The ostensible textualists on the Court are certainly being a little hypocritical, but it’s not an absurd ruling.

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It’s at least got to completely parallel the executive branch’s discretion with federal drug laws, that they’ve exercised in not prosecuting for federal marijuana violations. I feel like that’s something to watch out for now.

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Major questions doctrine:

If a law is so broad that it brings about questions on how one should implement it, rather than asking Congress to fix it, SOCTUS gets to dictate what specifically the answer to the question is. But if Congress doesn’t like that answer SCOTUS gives, Congress may pass a law being more specific. That is, the Court isn’t indicating that the law, ruling, or order is unconstitutional, they are ruling that it is too broad in scope and that SCOTUS is “fixing it” for the time being. But Congress is openly invited to completely override anything they’ve said.

Now of course, “Major Questions” brings about the obvious. “What is the definition of too broad?” And of course there’s all kinds of precedent on that as well and SCOTUS saying “well this is broad, but this isn’t broad”. Since the WV vs EPA (2022) case, SCOTUS Conservatives have gotten a bit more … (and it may shock those that I’m using this word) “liberal” in what they consider “broad”. And the liberal justices are more than happy to point this out each and every time to the Conservatives:

It seems I was wrong. The current Court is textualist only when being so suits it. When that method would frustrate broader goals, special canons like the “major questions doctrine” magically appear as get-out-of-text-free cards.

— Justice Kagan (brutally assaulting and ripping the Conservatives’ jugular while dissenting in WV v. EPA (cir. 2022))

So it looks like we’re in for a whole lot of “quite a precedent” as the Conservative Justices look posed to whip out the Major Questions doctrine to be allowed to “double think”. Major Questions isn’t usually used this often and by golly the Conservative Justices seem posed to right that perceived wrong, apparently. And the Liberal Justices have indicated, it’s not wise to over use this doctrine. The 6-3 bench isn’t forever.

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