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this is the kind of US-centric topic I don’t want to see on main. a tragic story, yes, but not relevant to the instance, lemmy, or the fediverse as a whole, sorry.

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Disappointed, but it makes sense that decisions with such huge implications should be clearly made by the legislative branch, not just at the whim of some executive department.

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yep. if something like debt forgiveness has a lot of bipartisan support, it should be an easy bit of legislation to pass.

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It does have bipartisan support, this is repeatedly shown in polling. But it doesn’t matter what voters want. The interests of capital will be served above all else because of decades of antidemocratic moves.

Antidemocratic moves like

  • Legalized bribes that push politicians towards the interests of capital.
  • Gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the electoral college which all reduce progressive and leftist voices to the point where we need massively more votes than right wingers to get the same power.
  • Filibuster power that firmly cements the status quo by requiring the majority of bills get a supermajority vote to pass.
  • Democrats being unwilling to wield their power to revoke the filibuster and enact their legislative agenda
  • The rotating villian democrats always seem to have have who can spoil anything even close to progress by one or two votes (Manchin and Sinema for now)

The US is just an oligarchy at this point and it’s getting harder and harder for me to stay optimistic about getting out of it.

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It’s kind of funny how dumb the democrats are. If they said: “give us Congress and the presidency next cycle and we’ll pass this as a law” … they likely easily win.

But nope they won’t say that, they won’t do that… Just plain stupid of them.

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unsurprising, it was basically judged as setting a horrible precedent from the beginning.

go into debt? you pay your debt. full stop, end of discussion.

want to change that? get congress to change how laws work

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"A horrible precedent of slightly more affordable education.

Born into indentured servitude? Work it off."

These are poor defenses of the current US debt system.

Cases of precedent affect legislation.

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maybe you should start a grassroots campaign then.

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There are plenty of campaigns against for-profit debt already making progress.

Besides, the data is already all out there, and that’s what I’m interested in spreading.

Costs less than a percent of the US budget to pay for free higher education, and in 2-8 years, the US would have a new productive generation of doctors, scientists, engineers and other professionals. It’s a pretty obvious win.

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But it’s not more affordable education? It’s just funneling federal dollars into the education industry, which is such blatant corruption I don’t get why anyone was ever for it. If you want to make education more affordable then start by… reducing the cost of education?

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You mean like by passing a law to allow the Secretary of Education to cancel loans?

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Why just student loans? Why not all loans?

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Agree and disagree. They put the cart before the horse on this one for sure. If we solve the problem of unaffordable education, then we can talk about forgiving the student loans of people who didn’t get to benefit from the new system

Just forgiving the student loans of a seemingly random block of people makes no sense. The next generation and more importly the universities will expect us to do the same thing later. Guess what that means?

Schools will raise their prices even more and kids will take on even more debt. We can’t just slap a bandaid on this and pat ourselves on the back

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That’s the thing: Congress provided for waiving and modifying student debt in at least two laws. Biden based this action off the HEROES Act of 2003. There is also broad authority to do so in the Higher Education Act of 1965.

Not sure why the HEROES Act was used this time around, but Congress provided for debt forgiveness nonetheless.

Not sure what the “horrible precedent” is with acknowledging that.

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It should be Ilegal to pay for education

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That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today

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Finland is doing it and they are much better off then us.

If por and rich kids are forced to go to the same schools, rich parents will have to make donations to increase the school’s quality…

FINLAND is doing it already and they are DOING MUCH BETTER THAN US…

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can you explain why?

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Finland is doing it and they are much better off then us.

If por and rich kids are forced to go to the same schools, rich parents will have to make donations to increase the school’s quality…

FINLAND is doing it already and they are DOING MUCH BETTER THAN US…

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His family didn’t have enough money to get him educated enough

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Doubt it.

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It should be illegal to get education.

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The combination of your statement and your username is quite ironic.

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I will spam post this to all you troolls that apparently are satisfied with the current system that treats people like shit.

Me on the other hand, have a tendency to look for systems already in place that are outsucceding ours.

For the record im a Portuguese, studying abroad so it’s not like I don’t have privileges that others don’t have.

That makes me think, bc some people out there deserve better resources. They are doing as well(if not better) as me with half of what I got…if that is not unfair then idk what is

Finland is doing it and they are much better off then us.

If por and rich kids are forced to go to the same schools, rich parents will have to make donations to increase the school’s quality…

FINLAND is doing it already and they are DOING MUCH BETTER THAN US…

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Finally. Thank God we have a same court to balance out the white house.

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