i don’t since i don’t read much and i am fine without the paper feeling mabye

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I don’t have one I have a kindle and love reading on the screen. Much nicer to the eye. Even with the backlight compared to an LCD or OLED screen for reading. As for e-tablets, if I had to work with a lot of document reading I would probably get one. But I don’t have a need for it.

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The only eink device I ever owned was a Pebble. It was pretty great in its time though.

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The pebble was “e-paper” which was a marketing term for a transflective LCD. It was not e-ink.

E-ink is a proprietary display tech that uses actual magnetized “ink” suspended in “liquid” cells. By pushing and pulling dark/light ink particles with an array of tiny electromagnets, it physically “paints” an image onto the display surface. Even if you entirely cut power, the image remains indefinitely.

Transflective LCD, is an LCD, and while its an extremely small amount, it does still need power to stay on.

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Weird, has nobody made a real e ink watch? That seems like it’d be a no brainer to make as watch displays go. Or is there some reason it wouldn’t be good in a watch format?

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It makes perfect sense.

But the transflective LCDs which were used by pebble were really fucking good. Especially with color in the Pebble Time, and the display that was going to be in the Time 2 was very promising.

E-Ink watches do exists, they are made by Fossil, and are great. Popping mine in a charger while I shower is enough to keep it going indefinitely.

But e-ink can barely do moving images, there are some tricks which can enable stuff like a small part of the display showing a smoothly animating loading icon, but generally, e-ink can’t surpass 1Hz refresh rate.

The UI for Pebble was getting super slick and smoothly animated. That’s where the transflective LCD shines, its the best of both worlds, super low power usage while displaying a static image, but when you DO interact with it, it can do 60Hz animations no problem.

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Fossil has an eink hybrid now icymi

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I have one. Been wearing it for years. I like it a lot. I’d still take pebble still being around, over it, but it’s a close second.

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I’ve been using a Garmin these days, very good battery life!

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Pebble’s marketing campaign is so good, I’m still correcting people to this day. xD It’s something they call “e-paper”, but it’s really a transflective LCD (remember those?). Nowhere like e-ink.

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Well, shit.

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Same. Transflective LCDs are great, and I really wish they got used more. Smartwatches are such a perfect application, yet everyone still slaps on energy-hungry oleds that literally degrade from the UV radiation of sunlight.

But they have literally nothing in common with e-ink.

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Love my transflective Garmin watch… But they seem to be moving towards oled too…

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I have one that can rent library books. It’s decent and I like it, but there’s no open standard, you are chained to their store. I want to be able to shop all stores including tiny real-world bookstores on my Kobo.

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I have e-book readers that use e-ink, and I love it. I can read books for hours and not have my eyes feel tired, that’s what it was designed for.

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Recently got a Onyx Boox Ultra and it’s incredible compared to my previous Kobo. Basically, its 10" with stylus input and a keyboard case. The special sauce is it running Android, complete with the Google store. The display tech is advanced enough that normal apps, for instance Connect for Lemmy, work fine. I have mine setup with Syncthing, Home Assistant, Obsidian, it all just works, mostly. I’d recommend using a 3rd party launcher and not touching the Onyx account, though.

I’ve had great experiences with Kobo, though. I literally went through 4 models because they kept upping their game. They’re less sketchy than Onyx and are very open; you can load your own books of nearly any format and modify it as it runs linux. You can even completely replace the OS.

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