cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3882090

Reader would work for like 90% of people, but no, everyone needs Standard or Pro because reasons.

33 points

Just like Microsoft office users, stop buying office and just download LibreOffice.

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And it’s good to know that Thunderbird will never force you to open email links inside of a specific browser.

It will do what every other operating system and program in the entire universe does and open a link in your default browser the way Outlook doesn’t anymore without a special setting in the config panel.

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Yep. And if I were in charge of my company we would be dumping every Microsoft product right the fuck now because of it. However I’ve still got to wait for one more person to get tired of working here and to quit and then I will be the IT director and we can kick Microsoft to the curb.

Although realistically the people that actually own the company won’t let me do that but you know I can dream right?

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I haven’t used LibreOffice for about 5 years, but my experience 5 years ago was that MSOffice was a better program. PowerPoint’s auto design wizard alone has saved me dozens of hours making presentations.

I want libre to as good or better, but it just isn’t there.

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I find it does the job, however I barely use office programs to begin with.

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I think that might be our difference. I use office programs all of the time. I dislike several things about office, formatting is tedious and difficult, combining multiple files isn’t the best, features that used to exist get rolled back and are more difficult to use to name a few. There are programs that do single aspects of office a whole lot better, like LaTeX, but they don’t really replace office.

I’d like to break free from MS, but unless something really innovative comes out I don’t see it being better for me.

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I’d also prefer to use LibreOffice, but I use SharePoint, PowerAutomate and connect to DataBricks on Azure for example. There are just so many things LibreOffice can’t do (not the devs fault). I think people are not aware of the current features of Microsoft Office and wind up comparing LibreOffice in 2023 to Microsoft Office 2003.

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It has come a long way in those 5 years.

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In the case of my users, it’s more like:

“I need licensed Acrobat Pro bc Reader tells me I need Pro to send PDFs.”

They don’t realize they can send the PDF any other way just fine - email attachment, Google Drive, hell even AirDrop. They just try to share the PDF from within the Reader app, get that message, and give up. Mildly annoying at worst.

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19 points

Firefox and Chrome both have PDF viewers built into them now, and that means Edge too… So there’s no need even for Sumatra, Foxit, or really anything.

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I’d still prefer to use Sumatra just because how lightweight it is compared to modern browsers, plus no fucking telemetry

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2 points

The browsers suck ass with pdf forms though.

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11 points

Did you last try a browser 10 years ago or something? They work fine.

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Not the forms I use. Firefox does ok most of the time, but Edge and chrome just will not even display some of the elements. It’s maddening.

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That’s nice but if a coworker is sharing a PDF there’s a good chance it calls for markup.

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The problem is IT (me included) had installed Adobe Pro for years apart of the image no matter what.

Then licensing became more of a pain, and we don’t really have a great way of telling if a user needs Pro or Reader.

Luckily with OS upgrades from 7 to 10 most of us fixed that and just made Reader available and Pro as a request.

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That’s crazy! Kind of similar but luckily we did keep it just reader in the image. If requested pro was installed, which of course everyone requested and we didn’t really put up a stink because of the same thing you stated! Then the end came for version 11 and switch to DC came and we needed to get our act together… took a few months but we had to have everyone we didn’t immediately know submit business justification for its use. Half were denied. I think we have 400 licenses and licensing is all portal based now. I wanna say we had over 800 with it originally. That was super annoying.

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We use pdf xchange. Low one time payment for the license, everyone gets it. Done, and done.

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10 points

Imagine using uwieldy Acrobat to read pdfs instead of Foxit or Sumatra or some shit.

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Foxit isn’t what it used to be. It’s just as unwieldy and intrusive as Adobe. I remember how lightweight it used to be.

Sumatra ftw however.

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I use Foxit in work because they won’t pay for Adobe. I have my own Adobe subscription and I really miss Acrobat when using Foxit

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I work university IT and anyone using just Acrobat from CC will be moved over to Foxit Pro. I’m sure everyone will love it…

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