Probably not but one can hope… to the Fediverse lemmings!

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Don’t forget YouTube disabling the video player all together if they catch you using an adblocked

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I don’t get that though, it’s not possible to block YouTube ads, so the adblocker, ublock etc, is only blocking ads on other websites unrelated to YouTube. It’s got nothing to do with them.

So… What gives?

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They work great on desktop browsers, maybe yours isn’t configured right?

And on Android there are alternatives…

I watch a lot of YouTube though (mostly science channels) so I will probably be forced to start paying. I don’t like it.

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Use VPN, switch country to turkey, pay 20 bucks for a year of youtube premium. It sucks, but 20 bucks is more affordable than the 10 per month they are asking.

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Bravo browser on Android does a great job at blocking ads on YouTube. After the demise of Vanced this is how I watch YouTube.

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YouTube has not yet fully deployed the use of an anti-adblocker. I’m sure it will happen across the board at some point. When it does you’ll have the same problem with Bravo.

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A web site host can employ scripts to detect the use of an adblocker by the client agent. It trips a flag and shuts down access to the site. A blocker can filter ads from incoming data, but there’s nothing it can do to force the server to provide data.

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This is a big concern for me, I use YouTube a lot on desktop browser with uBlock Origin. It will be crushing for me when they shut that down. I have no viable alternative to YouTube. It’s not just that, Google is forcing everyone to the Manifest V3 extension platform which reduces adblock capability on Chrome. So it’s like a double whammy. I can move to Firefox to avoid that, but I’m in a corner with YouTube. Seriously the internet is mostly intolerable without a blocker like UBO.

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And invidious seems to be under legal threat from google as well.

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Who?

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It’s clear that something is going on. At least for Reddit and Twitter, they need to make money. They’ve made that pretty obvious but it is curious why now. Facebook and others didn’t seem to have this issue. YouTube sounds like google just Google

I’m not sure how Lemmy will last if it grows massively. But I’m here for a good time not a long

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Facebook and others didn’t seem to have this issue

maybe because Facebook already required users to login before seeing most of the content?

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Could be. but i would argue that would be worse than a free-to-view website that just ran ads as you didnt need sign up or anything to view them.

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Central banks, especially in Europe and North America, are raising the rates. Lending money isn’t cheap anymore and running a service on debt only becomes a headache.

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Wikipedia has done well for itself using donation runs and grassroots support, so if there are ways for instances to do similar the decentralized nature of this will work out ok.

Elsewhere the issue is many of these large services have grown to the size of effectively being a public good, but good luck maintaining a public good in a profit generating way as a private company seeking the next quarter’s growth.

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That’s a good point. Wikipedia isn’t a for-profit company so they don’t have to show insane profit every quarter in order to calm shareholders. I donate to Wikipedia all the time cause I appreciate what they provide.

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I suspect these changes come from very different motivations. My guesses are ① Reddit needs money, and ② Twitter engineering has been brain-drained.

Reddit’s changes are a desperate attempt to please investors. This is a standard tactic for tech startups that are having trouble showing a profit: figure out what the company has been giving out for free, and start charging for it. They looked at API traffic and said “what do we have to do to monetize this?” and the current situation followed directly from that.

This is not just a vague appeal to “the market”; there are specific big-money investors involved, and they will have been communicating directly with Reddit management on what they want to see from the platform. CEO Huffman is probably listening to specific advice (or demands!) from those investors, and making policy changes to appeal to them.

Twitter’s situation is quite different. The goal of Musk’s takeover was political: to reverse Twitter’s user conduct policies, which had led to Donald Trump and other fascists being banned from the platform for shitty behavior.

Twitter is falling apart on a technological level right now because most of its skilled engineers have quit, leaving the company no longer capable of responding effectively to technical problems.

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I think you’re right about Reddit. I think Spez probably knows the recent changes are too heavy handed, but has been painted into a corner having tried and failed to monetise Reddit “his way” for years.

Now his investors are forcing change and he either has to see it through or quit. But now users have turned on him he really has nothing left.

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