I mean don’t get me wrong, its cool a lot of subs have and still are participating in the blackout, but I think it wouldve been better to link a new home for the subreddits participating somewhere in the private message. Show spez, hey if you dont change, we aren’t going to use your site (or use it less).
I don’t care. I’m very happy to have discovered kbin et al. So much room for activities!
I mean, it only has this basic web interface on mobile and it’s already much more intuitive than the official reddit app they’re trying to push…
I was hoping the threat of the blackout would be enough, but Reddit knows what it wants and will either force the change or die trying. This is not good community stewardship. We should all find a new home.
The win from the protest for me is discovering the Feddiverse. In time it will be just as good as Reddit for community and information. I intend to use it, and support it though content and money.
I was hoping the threat of the blackout would be enough, but Reddit knows what it wants and will either force the change or die trying. This is not good community stewardship. We should all find a new home.
Well said. I’d add that the Enshittification is complete for Reddit.
No, don’t point redditors to our servers, let them find by themselves. It’s a great filter. If someone is motivated enough to leave reddit then he will find us.
I don’t think this is the best strategy; I think if we want people to leave we should make it as easy as possible. We can’t just prioritize the people who will take the time to learn and understand federated spaces, and google search or whatever to find us; in terms of user volume, if we want to be competitive, we need average users, too.
well, personally, I don’t really care if people come here or not. I want that people who want to be here to be here, but not for this to be a massive site where everybody comes because it is “the new reddit”.
And I also don’t think about everyone leaving Reddit. The new Reddit works for some folks, not for us, so we come here and some other places. I don’t want it to die either, it’s just not my cup of tea anymore
I think the blackout is counter productive to continue. The idea was to try and convince reddit to change their minds, but as we can see now that is simply not going to happen. you can’t convince someone who is unreasonable with logic. The way it has gone is that there has been a large influx of people trying things like kbin and lemmy, and the experience has not been smooth. lemmy.ml being immediately overloaded, and continuing to be difficult to federate with reliably is a problem, and not one just for that instance. It creates a sour view of the network (especially with other instances running into issues that seem to be scaling issues with the lemmy software). I think kbin has had some scaling issues that required using a large cdn to even try to cope with. The problem there is that if you look at the traffic of some of the largest federated reddit replacements, it is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things. The number of communities is very small, and those that exist have thread counts in the double digits at best. Most of that is due to the hyper isolation and fragmentation of instances due to federation issues at scale.
In the end I think every sub should call it a day on blackout. Go back to normal and make it clear that reddit hasn’t won, you are just regrouping. Then give the software devs a bit more time to work before the 3rd party apps go offline for the final time. use the initial blackout as a scream test, and wait for reddit to disable themselves by revoking api access. Hopefully by then many of the larger issues with reddit like federated alternatives can be resolved, or at the very least minimized, so the transition away from reddit can take place quickly and easily.
Let’s say…
- Reddit & API users negotiate a middle ground and 3rd party apps are allowed to stay: The community still loses.
- Reddit buys one of the better third party apps and replaces/integrates it with the default app: We all know what will happen next.
- Reddit does a full-stop 180, cancels all API changes, and apologizes: It’s only a matter of time until they try again.
Enshitification has infected Reddit. So to be perfectly honest, I don’t really care how the blackout is going because no matter how it turns out, I don’t think I really want to be there to watch it continue its deterioration.
I deleted all my past content and deleted the accounts. Tbh, I’m pretty disappointed in the very verbal dick riders who refused to join rhe protest. The whole attitude from those who remained of “I got mine so fuck everybody else” leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Its at the core of so many problems across society. Maybe this is just a fast way of filtering out a whole ton of garbage users at once, by leaving them behind.
