Tl;dr; expansion pretty much change whole game, reworks core game mechanics and adds whole new district. Plus Idris Elba and more of Keanu with expansion having almost as much lines as core game.

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Fairly-priced expansions are 10000x better than garbage micro-transactions and DLC, I don’t get why anyone would be annoyed with this

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Literally this. Even in older games journalism there was a difference between additional content and true expansions. We used to call developers out for labelling something as an expansion that didn’t have enough additional content. This is pretty close to what full expansions used to cost ($20-25 is what I remember for something like Shadows of Amn), and the amount of additional content fits.

I think a lot of people are used to the incremental and constant content release for live services games that are generally free. More is not always better, though…and free is not always free lol.

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2 points

Wouldn’t the controversy be that Cyberpunk is incomplete, and this expansion is actually the finished game?

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If there was something that was incomplete about Cyberpunk, it was the stuff that they’ve done to the game up to this expansion that fixed problems it launched with. A game isn’t incomplete just because they add more to it later.

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I think additional content is fine, even if it’s expanding the story. That’s not super unusual even going back years ago to Baldurs Gate 2’s expansion finishing the story, and is often referred to as a trilogy due to the expansion, or Lord of Destruction.

It sounds like the changes made to the base game will be implemented even if you don’t buy this DLC which is good. Base game changes and improvements to AI shouldn’t be sold separately.

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I don’t get that. Cyberpunk is by no means perfect. But how is it not a complete game? I put in a ton of hours and thoroughly enjoyed it. Are you saying that because the AI was bad, it’s incomplete? Cause very, very few games are complete if that’s the benchmark we use.

It got over hyped, but capital G gamers did what they do best and blew it out of proportion as if someone kicked their baby.

Note: I played on PC several months after launch. Maybe it was incomplete when it came out, but it sure as hell ain’t now.

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1 point

the overhaul is free though so you’re only paying for new story content

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There wouldn’t be any controversy if people stopped buying unfinished games, though.

Once you’ve bought it, you’ve signaled that it’s complete enough for you.

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It’s weird to me that people say it was ever unfinished (prev gen consoles aside) It was buggy and wasn’t the life simulator nerds wanted but the story is among the best in video games and the game play is incredibly satisfying. While also having the best looking graphics of any game to date.

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The totality of those expansions in a lot of cases ended up costing $30 and having similar amounts of content. Dishonored had two story DLCs for $15 each, part 1 and part 2. So…that’s $30. Yeah, if there’s a controversy here, there shouldn’t be.

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For predominantly single-player games, I fully agree. Sell me a meaty expansion, don’t trickle things out as little pieces of DLC.

I don’t think the expansion model really works for multiplayer games though. You end up fracturing the community. It’s why I think cosmetic microtransactions are a net positive, but only in the context of multiplayer. It’s why games like Apex, Fortnite, and CSGO are not only still relevant, but actively updated and improved for so many years after their release.

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MMOs have done expansions well. I personally wouldn’t ever pay money for micro transaction cosmetics, but I will buy every decent expansion for an MMO I’m playing.

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I can see why people would be at least skeptical given the way the game released. And while they keep reworking the game mechanics the core game story and vibe is pretty disappointing.

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This is why I’m part of the patient gamers group. Once a game released that I might like, it goes straight into the wishlist and forgotten about until it goes on sale. With so many other titles to play through until a given game reaches generally recognizable decent quality, I’m happy for the beta testers and bleeding edgers to pay to bugfix a new release for me. Thanks, guys!

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I feel like everyone should get access to the game rework, not just the people who buy the DLC. This what the base game should have been, what they promised.

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And they do - the expansion is the expanded content. The rework is a patch that launches at the same time that goes out to everyone with and without the expansion. This is similar to how CDPR did The Witcher 3 expansions.

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IMHO, as I’m sure it is for many, the Cyberpunk 2077 launch was awful. However, once they patched it and got rid of all the bugs, the storyline, graphics, and content of this game is incredible! I would much rather pay for a DLC than have a bunch of micro transactions. Im excited to see what they have in store for “V” and crew. 😃

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